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Well Dan isn't playing a bunch of tournaments below his level. At the moment all we know is that he is a good futures player. Whether he can actually step up to challengers is another question and his previous attempts to do so haven't gone well. To be honest I suspect that his next attempt to do so will also go badly but it is of course right that he tries.

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The fact that as they walked off court yesterday Liam towered over Dan, and Liam isn't exactly a tall player (5-10 to 6 foot max I'm guessing), is the biggest challenge for Dan. Mr Evans shows that you don;t need to be tall to have a decent serve (his can be powerful on its day), but I think Mr Evans is a good 2 or 3 inches taller than Mr Cox. A weak serve is a pretty enormous barrier to success at the next level up.

With Liam serving at *5-2 40-0, Rob saved 3 set points but Liam took the 4th (at least, I think it was the 4th!) 6-2

Doing rather well for someone who's 5'7" isn't he? Forget who it was who said vis a vis some of the top players that you could do many things to compensate for areas of weakness, but "you can't teach 6'3""

In re: earlier conversation ... Mr Murray is an exceptional talent, whose willingness to subordinate everything else to his quest for excellence has yielded tremendous results. Mr Cox is clearly a strong talent - you don't get into the top 300 players in the world in any sport if you aren't extremely good. But he can't expect the same returns on investment as Mr Murray can. Missing a family event in order to compete - without a strong chance of major success - in a tournament whose like will be held the next week, and the week after that, and the week after that would seem potentially quite a pointless (figuratively, and potentially literally) choice. Hope he enjoys the wedding ... and the Challengers he subsequently plays.

Oh, and hope Mr Broady continues to do well. Would be great to see him get a Futures win.

korriban wrote:

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Seems like a VERY long gap between sets. Since this isn't a WTA or ITF womens' match with an Eastern European having lost the first set, I fear there may be a genuine MTO.

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 Toilet breaks between sets often last 5 minutes, it is a decent walk from the courts to the toilets and some players take their time, so I wouldn't read too much into it.

korriban wrote:

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RJA wrote:

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korriban wrote:

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Seems like a VERY long gap between sets. Since this isn't a WTA or ITF womens' match with an Eastern European having lost the first set, I fear there may be a genuine MTO.

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 Toilet breaks between sets often last 5 minutes, it is a decent walk from the courts to the toilets and some players take their time, so I wouldn't read too much into it.

 

 How can someone need the toilet after 40 minutes! In the rules I know but it has to be stopped.

 

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 When you gotta go you gotta go. I certainly wouldn't fancy playing a set of Tennis if I needed to back one out

steven wrote:

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LouieG wrote:

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Where would a win take Broady in the rankings?

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Estimates:

Liam up to about 560 if he wins, 603 if he loses

Rob up to about 759 if he wins, 885 (which would still be a rise of about 300 places from where he is now) if he loses

-- Edited by steven on Saturday 7th of September 2013 10:10:02 AM

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Better make that about 560 for Liam then as he storms through the final in style winning 6-2 6-1

Liam Broady - ITF Futures Champion