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Weeks 26 & 27: Wimbledon men's main draw (grass)


Kyle Edmund v Jerzy Janowicz

James Ward v Yen-Hsun Lu

Andy Murray v Benjamin Becker

 

Winner of Andy's and James's matches play each other in round 2.  Despite Nadal being 5th seed Andy still has the prospect of only facing 2 of the 'top 4' to win the title.



-- Edited by steven on Friday 21st of June 2013 10:27:04 AM

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Novak Djokovic is a very lucky man. I guess he sort of deserved it after Roland Garros. But he is very lucky. As for Mr Murray: well, if he gets to the QFs,  Tsonga/Cilic  isn't great, but could be worse, and if he gets to the SFs,  I guess he'll have to hope that Federer and Nadal wear each other out ...



-- Edited by Spectator on Friday 21st of June 2013 10:24:26 AM

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Damn, that's a tough task for Kyle.

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Aye Jerzy came through qualis last year and went on to beat fellow qualifier Bolelli in round 1 before beating Gulbis in round2. However he did go out in Round 1 of Halle last week to WR240 Basic.

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For some reason Janowicz doesn't like playing on grass, even though his game should be well suited to it. Still a very tough draw for Kyle.

Pretty good draw for James though and a chance to defend his R2 points.

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With a bit more info:

L128: (2) Andy Murray WR 2 v Benjamin Becker (GER) WR 95 (CH 38 in 2007) - H2H 1-0, 4&6, Queen's QF this year

L128: (WC) James Ward WR 216 v Lu Yen-Hsun (TPE) WR 74 (CH 33 in 2010, when he reached the Wimbledon QFs)

L128: (WC) Kyle Edmund WR 442 v (24) Jerzy Janowicz (POL) WR 22 (= CH, R3 last year)

All due to be played on Monday.

Murray's 'route': Becker - Ward/Lu - (32) Robredo - (14) Tipsy / (20) Youzhny - (6) Tsonga / (10) Cilic - (3) Fed / (5) Rafa - (1) Djokovic

To use the same terms as on a previous thread - Andy got a 'normal' draw, Nole a 'dream' draw, Fed & Rafa a 'nightmare draw'.

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I could be wrong on this. If so someone correct me, but i don't think Andy would have been ranked high enough to even get into qualifying, So he would have needed a wild card for that toowink.

 

On another point is the least men we ever had in the main draw. or the least wild cards handed out to British menhmm



-- Edited by bookerman on Friday 21st of June 2013 06:11:55 PM

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I may be wrong but Murray's biggest threat will be Djokovic. Should he play Federer, I fancy him to win in 3 or 4 sets. Rafa will be trickier but I think he will beat him. It will be tough to win against Djokovic when he has had a fairly straight forward path to the final.


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Never underestimate Federer at Wimbledon, he looked very impressive in Halle last week. In my opinion, the best in the top 4 at mixing up the play which makes him very suited to grass.

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I agree that it is a very tough draw for Kyle. If he is going to win this thing, his likely route will be

R1 : Janowicz
R2 : Stepanek
R3 : Almagro
L16 : Federer
QF : Nadal
SF : Murray
F : Djokovic

He is going to have to put ALL the "big boys" in their place  wink



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denver23 wrote:
SMC1809 wrote:

Denver, I'm getting the impression that you're not keen on wildcards. Now sure why I get this feeling, it's just a hunch.


 HA HA HA - like that SMC - GETTING THINGS OFF MY CHEST - WILDCARDS INTO ROOM 101!!! ONLY GS EVENTS THOUGH - NOT OPPOSED TO NORMAL TOUR EVENTS.


Well you have just destroyed your own position far better than anyone else ever could. If it so unfair that Kyle gets a Wimbledon wild card why is it okay for a couple of Canadians to get a wild card for the Rogers Cup or for a couple of Americans in Cincinnati?



-- Edited by RJA on Friday 21st of June 2013 06:29:39 PM

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Yes, doesn't Federer look unbeatable on grass - when he's not playing Djokovic, Murray or Nadal.

I give him a 10% chance of winning Wimbledon, Nadal 15%, Murray 30%, Djokovic 40%, AN Other 5%. I'd guess we all agree on these odds, with a variance of up to 10% here and there. This does of course mean that Andy is over twice as likely NOT to win as he is to win. Sorry ...

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Bob in Spain wrote:

I agree that it is a very tough draw for Kyle. If he is going to win this thing, his likely route will be

R1 : Janowicz
R2 : Stepanek
R3 : Almagro
L16 : Federer
QF : Nadal
SF : Murray
F : Djokovic

He is going to have to put ALL the "big boys" in their place  wink


 I think he's fine until the QF, but I fancy Nadal to take him out in 4 wink



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korriban wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:

I agree that it is a very tough draw for Kyle. If he is going to win this thing, his likely route will be

R1 : Janowicz
R2 : Stepanek
R3 : Almagro
L16 : Federer
QF : Nadal
SF : Murray
F : Djokovic

He is going to have to put ALL the "big boys" in their place  wink


 I think he's fine until the QF, but I fancy Nadal to take him out in 4 wink


Even more intriguing is the potential R2 match-up - 8 years ago, an 18-year-old Brit ranked in the 300s (as Kyle will be on Monday) and playing in his first Wimbledon played (and beat) Radek in R2.



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RJA wrote:

For some reason Janowicz doesn't like playing on grass, even though his game should be well suited to it. Still a very tough draw for Kyle.

Pretty good draw for James though and a chance to defend his R2 points.


 Its probably because he had just not played very much on the surface before. Plenty of players have struggled to adapt to grass at first and then gone on to be very good players on it. 



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