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paulisi


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How can Llodra be allowed to withdraw from the singles 3 hours earlier through injury and then play doubles same day?

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How can Llodra be allowed to withdraw from the singles 3 hours earlier through injury and then play doubles same day?

I'm with you on this one. Seems to be a lack of respect for the tournament to me.



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I now hope he gets stuffed in the doubles - come on the Czech pair.

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Surely a player should be fined if they do this, its quite pathetic on their part to do this

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I strongly doubt that either Stepanek or Llodra would deliberately harm their singles chances to focus on their doubles. It is more than possible that Stepanek, in particular, would have had a day for rest and evaluation, which would have enabled him to work out what he could/couldn't do ... whereas he might not have wanted to continue if there was a chance that playing on could result in serious injury. Ditto for Llodra, actually, as he had enough of a gap to get some evaluation. There's also the reality that if you're playing singles a movement issue will be more serious than if you're playing doubles with a good partner. Both of these men have good partners, so would have cover for issues. And of course both wouldn't have wanted to let their doubles partners down ... particularly in the case of Llodra/Mahut where they are very much in contention for the World Tour Finals.

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And now it just goes to the ridiculous as Llodra and Mahut have won by a retirement.

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And now it just goes to the ridiculous as Llodra and Mahut have won by a retirement.

Un-bloody-believable! furious



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I strongly doubt that either Stepanek or Llodra would deliberately harm their singles chances to focus on their doubles. It is more than possible that Stepanek, in particular, would have had a day for rest and evaluation, which would have enabled him to work out what he could/couldn't do ... whereas he might not have wanted to continue if there was a chance that playing on could result in serious injury. Ditto for Llodra, actually, as he had enough of a gap to get some evaluation. There's also the reality that if you're playing singles a movement issue will be more serious than if you're playing doubles with a good partner. Both of these men have good partners, so would have cover for issues. And of course both wouldn't have wanted to let their doubles partners down ... particularly in the case of Llodra/Mahut where they are very much in contention for the World Tour Finals.

Ever the voice of temperance & reason, Spectator! smile



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R2:  (5) Aisam-ul-Haq Qureshi & Jean-Julien Rojer (PAK/NED) WR 5 (Race) vs Xavier Malisse (BEL) & Ken Skupski WR 138 hmm



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Llodra said that he had a hamstring injury but that with less court to cover and a totally different style of play he hoped that he could play through it in doubles. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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The boys bag the second set by 7-6(1) to level the match! smile    Wonder if it'll finish this evening....

No sign of any change in the scoreline for the last 20 minutes or so, so even though the live scoreboard doesn't say so, I guess play has been suspended for the day.  Best of luck when play resumes tomorrow, boys.



-- Edited by Stircrazy on Saturday 29th of June 2013 10:44:43 AM

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R2:  Jamie Delgado & Matt Ebden (AUS) WR 207 vs (4) Leander Paes & Radek Stepanek (IND/CZE) WR 25

Can anyone explain to me why Paes & Ugly Mug should have been seeded fourth when their combined ranking is 25 & they don't appear anywhere in the Race, so far as I can see? confuse



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R2:  Jamie Delgado & Matt Ebden (AUS) WR 207 vs (4) Leander Paes & Radek Stepanek (IND/CZE) WR 25

Can anyone explain to me why Paes & Ugly Mug should have been seeded fourth when their combined ranking is 25 & they don't appear anywhere in the Race, so far as I can see? confuse

 Presumably it has something to do with their combined rank of 25 being the 4th best in the draw.



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R2:  Jamie Delgado & Matt Ebden (AUS) WR 207 vs (4) Leander Paes & Radek Stepanek (IND/CZE) WR 25

Can anyone explain to me why Paes & Ugly Mug should have been seeded fourth when their combined ranking is 25 & they don't appear anywhere in the Race, so far as I can see? confuse

Given that the Race is irrelevant to seedings, you appear to have answered your own question ... or am I missing something? Here are the combined rankings of the top 9 seeds as at the seeding date:

(1) Bryan/Bryan 2
(2) Granollers/López 7
(3) Peya/Soares 15
(4) Paes/Stepanek 25 *
(5) Qureshi/Rojer 25 *
(6) Lindstedt/Nestor 27
(7) Mirnyi/Tecau 33
(8) Bhupathi/Knowle 34
(9) Fleming/Marray 42

* fewer events played breaks the tie

It must, however, be quite unusual for only three pairs in a slam to have a combined ranking of less than 25 - it implies that very few of the top doubles players have been playing with the same partner throughout the last 12 months.



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Cheers, Steven.  Explanation much appreciated. smile  I knew someone would come to my rescue eventually.  Didn't cross my mind to look at the combined rankings of the other seeds, but then, I was supposed to be working & didn't really have the time... wink



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