Week 24 - ATP 250 - London Queen's Club, UK (grass)

RJA · Hall of fame

RE: Week 24 - ATP 250 - London Queen's Club, UK (grass)

SMC1809 · All-time great

Name them.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

SMC1809 wrote:
Name them.

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indiana · Tennis legend

Why ? Have you worked it out differently, SMC ?

korriban · Challenger level

Handbags at dawn! biggrin

In this game of pendantry and counter-pedantry, is tennis the real winner? smile

Come on people, sort it out!

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

I am going to take a guess and say that SMC does what I do - namely look at the number of points and compare it to the current ATP ranking table. On that basis, Dan comes in at about 249.

However, the more sophisticated analyst will also have taken into account other players gaining points from below and of course, those from above losing points.

Sorry if there is a bit of "grandma egg sucking" going on here, but just wanted to place myself firmly in the "lazy" camp.

RJA · Hall of fame

SMC1809 wrote:
Name them.

I have no intention of playing your silly games. All that matters is that 185 points won't enough for a top 250 place next Monday.

SMC1809 · All-time great

Okay, I'll let you off naming them, but it would seem that 185 points puts Dan at number 249 as of now. Kukushkin can overtake him if he wins Kosice. Mecir can overtake him if he reaches the final of Kosice. Teixeira can overtake with a SF in Blois. Daniel can overtake with another win in Prague as can Cervenak.

However, Cervenak is due to play the second seed, Teixeira the top seed and Kukushkin and Mecir are in the same half son can't both reach the final. Daniel has the best chance, but it would need 2 of these things to happen to push Dan outside of the top 250.

Josh · Challenger level

I use this site which is usually reliable except during weekends when they remove the following week's point too early.

It currently has Dan at WR 249 with 185 points, although there are a few players below who could still catch him.

http://live-tennis.eu/

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Now back to important matters - what is the weather looking like at Queens. Enquiring (but very distant) minds would like to know.

Any chance of a resumption soon ?

SMC1809 · All-time great

I use that table too, and it will show that Lojda who was ahead of Dan was defending points but just lost in R1 of Prague. Similarly, Daniel is defending 15 points so needs to go a round further to make a gain.

RJA · Hall of fame

SMC1809 wrote:
Okay, I'll let you off naming them, but it would seem that 185 points puts Dan at number 249 as of now. Kukushkin can overtake him if he wins Kosice. Mecir can overtake him if he reaches the final of Kosice. Teixeira can overtake with a SF in Blois. Daniel can overtake with another win in Prague as can Cervenak.
However, Cervenak is due to play the second seed, Teixeira the top seed and Kukushkin and Mecir are in the same half son can't both reach the final. Daniel has the best chance, but it would need 2 of these things to happen to push Dan outside of the top 250.

I am not going to run through a detailed analysis of every players ranking points but as you will discover on Monday you are wrong.

Josh · Challenger level

Bob in Spain wrote:
Now back to important matters - what is the weather looking like at Queens. Enquiring (but very distant) minds would like to know.

Any chance of a resumption soon ?

Yep, back on court and have just finished the warm up.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Josh wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Now back to important matters - what is the weather looking like at Queens. Enquiring (but very distant) minds would like to know.

Any chance of a resumption soon ?
Yep, back on court and have just finished the warm up.

Didn't last long though by the looks of it

RJA · Hall of fame

Josh wrote:
I use this site which is usually reliable except during weekends when they remove the following week's point too early.

It currently has Dan at WR 249 with 185 points, although there are a few players below who could still catch him.

http://live-tennis.eu/

Ah I see the problem. You are looking at a flawed table. It fails to take into account futures points from events that were played last week. Bellotti, Diez and Estevez all won futures events last week and will have 195, 189 and 187 points respectively as of next Monday.