Week 24 - ATP 250 - London Queen's Club, UK (grass)

korriban · Challenger level

RE: Week 24 - ATP 250 - London Queen's Club, UK (grass)

RJA · Hall of fame

Worth pointing out here that Ed does have a pretty good serve. It isn't a huge weapon but it certainly isn't a weakness either. Like much of his game it is solid.

korriban · Challenger level

RJA wrote:
Worth pointing out here that Ed does have a pretty good serve. It isn't a huge weapon but it certainly isn't a weakness either. Like much of his game it is solid.

Yes. A decent serve, but not a great serve.

RJA · Hall of fame

Kyle has finally made it onto court and starts well with two comfortable holds 2-1*

In other news 13th seed Jarko Nieminen beat Ryan Harrison and will play Evans in round 2.

-- Edited by RJA on Tuesday 11th of June 2013 05:17:58 PM

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

I agree entirely. If the one of the reasons for offering WC to GB players is to attract more interest, it makes no sense whatsoever not at least have their matches live streamed on the internet.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Tuesday 11th of June 2013 06:36:44 PM

steven · Tennis legend

L56: (Q) Jamie Baker WR 295 lost to (9) Benoit Paire (FRA) WR 25 (= CH) by 5 & 2
L56: (WC) Dan Evans WR 277 beat Guido Pella (ARG) WR 75 (= CH) by 3 & 1 biggrin
L56: (WC) James Ward WR 215 lost to Ivan Dodig WR 54 (CH 32 in 2011) by 6-7(8) 7-6(2) 7-6(2)
L56: (WC) Ed Corrie WR 330 lost to Sergiy Stakhovsky (UKR) WR 116 (CH 31 in 2010) by 6-4 7-6(1)

L56: (WC) Kyle Edmund WR 444 lost to (16) Grega Zemlja (SLO) WR 51 (CH 49 last month) by 6-4 7-6(4)

L32: (1) Andy Murray WR 2 v Nicolas Mahut (FRA) WR 224 (CH 40 in 2008) - H2H 3-1, but the loss was here last year
L32: (WC) Dan Evans WR 277 v (13) Jarkko Nieminen FIN WR 37 (CH 13 in 2006) - H2H 0-1, 4 & 2, Jersey Challenger 2009

-- Edited by steven on Tuesday 11th of June 2013 06:54:24 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RJA wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
I agree entirely. If the one of the reasons for offering WC to GB players is to attract more interest, it makes no sense whatsoever not at least have their matches live streamed on the internet.
And now we find out that Evans v Nieminen will not be on centre.

Oh, for pity's sake. What are Aegon and the LTA thinking of ? In fact, I don;t mind Dan being on number 1, given that centre court already has a good schedule.

But why or why, when even a tiny event in the middle of nowhere often has two streams, if not three, does Queens club, London, deem it OK to just televise the centre court ?

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Tuesday 11th of June 2013 07:38:39 PM

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Dino drops the second set by 6-7(2). He's going to lose this now!
Come on SC. Remember the power of positive thinking
(And the DC spirit !!)
I'll respond to your post, Bob, since Steven appears to have deleted the comment/question I was saving until I got home (had a pretty busy afternoon at work & the tennis was proving a serious distraction... ) & I rather think I know why. Of course I've been following Dino's exploits in the last few months (& since long before that!) & of course I'm well aware of the considerable resilience he showed in the DC tie in Birmingham. It's just that I very little faith in the ability of all but a tiny handful of top (as opposed to half-way decent) sportsmen & women in this country not to crumble under intense pressure & to press home any advantage they engineer as soon as it presents itself. That said, I make that remark in the desperate hope that James would somehow prove me wrong. I was bitterly disappointed to discover that he hadn't.

I very much agree with you SC about the British mentality and its apparent love of the brave underdog and valiant loser. And there is very much a mentality with young people that they should "try their best" and that is all that really matters. Of course in most cases, these young people aren't destined to be top sportsman anyway and so trying to find the right balance between instilling the self belief needed to win whilst avoiding mentality that defeat is "failure" is a fine line.

I always used to tell people - if you believe you are going to lose, you will, but if you believe you can win, you can (not will).

We absolutely need more sportsmen with the "killer instinct", but how to achieve that is another question. I try to do my little bit by thinking positive as much as possible.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Thanks Jan - it's always great to hear from someone who was courtside.

I think you're exactly right about the weight of shot - in terms of pure strength and physicality, an 18 year-old is a completely different beast from a 25 year-old (we all remember Andy when he started and his little skinny legs). In fact, I noticed at Roland Garros that some of the players I know well were looking even stronger and hitting the ball even harder, at 30, than they were at 25.

Good to hear that Kyle looked as though he belonged there, and was being cheered on. Hope he enjoyed the experience.

PS A 'very interesting' interview with Dan Evans - don't you just love it when the littl'uns grow up a bit . . .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2338962/Queens-Club-2013-Dan-Evans-reaches-second-round.html

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Tuesday 11th of June 2013 10:31:02 PM

korriban · Challenger level

Feeling very sorry for Kyle.

Probably all psyched up for his maiden ATP event, scheduled to be on court around 2pm, and the previous match has been on and off constantly. Furthermore that court seems to be the first to stop and by 10-15 minutes the last to start again.

Only 1 more game to complete in all likelihood, so he should get on later, hopefully before 6pm, but his nerves must be all over the place.

RJA · Hall of fame

Worse part is that it doesn't seem to rain for that long. Just lots of shortish showers that forces the players off and leaves the courts needing a little while to dry.

RJA · Hall of fame

Kyle has only dropped 4 points on serve so far.

4-3*

Tennis36 · Masters Series Champion

kyle 15/15 on first serve, but only found one first serve in that game and was broken to 30, 4-5*

RJA · Hall of fame

Dropped the first set 6-4 but gets a big hold (from 15-40) in the opening game of set 2.

RJA · Hall of fame

6-5* in the second

Kyle will at least have a shot at a tie break.