Wimbledon 2013 and 2014 - women's WCs & pre-draw discussion

Sim · County player

RE: Wimbledon 2013 - women's WCs & pre-draw discussion

scottie1 · Futures level

PaulM wrote:
Pre-Qualifying

(1)Emily Webley-Smith vs (wc)Aimee Gibson
Naomi Cavaday vs Harriet Dart
Beth Askew vs Freya Christie
(wc)Isabelle Wallace vs (4)Lucy Brown

(2)Lisa Whybourn vs (wc)Katie Swan
Eden Silva vs (wc)Jasmine Asghar
(wc)Gabriella Taylor vs Jessica Simpson
(wc)Maia Lumsden vs (2)Manisha Foster

Top half is much stronger. Particularly the top quarter with Harriet, Naomi and Em all in there.

Depending on how her shoulder is, Lisa could well come through this.

Cav v Harriet should be interesting If Naomi is planning a comeback wouldn't be great for her to pre qualify hope lisa does well but Katie swan good prospect

indiana · Tennis legend

Some interesting match ups, and for differing reasons, there's quite a number there that I'd be very happy to see come through. So I guess just, may the best ladies win.

Deano13 · Social player

Very tough top half. Does anybody know if Cav is making a proper comeback? If finalists get through I'll go with Cav and Swan. If it's the semi finalists as it has been before I'll go with Cav, Christie, Swan and Foster! What does everyone else think?

murray_2k9 · Challenger qualifying

Very top heavy draw, would agree Naomi has to be slight favourite.

Bottom draw would have to be Lisa for me, assuming shes back at near her best.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Deano13 wrote:
Very tough top half. Does anybody know if Cav is making a proper comeback? If finalists get through I'll go with Cav and Swan. If it's the semi finalists as it has been before I'll go with Cav, Christie, Swan and Foster! What does everyone else think?

OK, challenge accepted: against my better judgement, I'm going for the youth-fest of Freya v Katie Swan in the final.

And for the semis, Naomi and Manisha (although I'd like to chose someone else apart from Manisha - can't see her doing that well on grass - but can;t really see one of the others winning).

So pretty much the same as you . . .

For a 'joker', I'd like Eden and Emily WS to do well.

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

scottie1 wrote:
PaulM wrote:
Pre-Qualifying

(1)Emily Webley-Smith vs (wc)Aimee Gibson
Naomi Cavaday vs Harriet Dart
Beth Askew vs Freya Christie
(wc)Isabelle Wallace vs (4)Lucy Brown

(2)Lisa Whybourn vs (wc)Katie Swan
Eden Silva vs (wc)Jasmine Asghar
(wc)Gabriella Taylor vs Jessica Simpson
(wc)Maia Lumsden vs (2)Manisha Foster

Top half is much stronger. Particularly the top quarter with Harriet, Naomi and Em all in there.

Depending on how her shoulder is, Lisa could well come through this.
Cav v Harriet should be interesting If Naomi is planning a comeback wouldn't be great for her to pre qualify hope lisa does well but Katie swan good prospect

Very interesting I would say. Naomi was in Greece and Egypt with Harriet as her coach and if she is not really planning a comeback! presumably is still her coach.

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

Coup Droit wrote:
Deano13 wrote:
Very tough top half. Does anybody know if Cav is making a proper comeback? If finalists get through I'll go with Cav and Swan. If it's the semi finalists as it has been before I'll go with Cav, Christie, Swan and Foster! What does everyone else think?

OK, challenge accepted: against my better judgement, I'm going for the youth-fest of Freya v Katie Swan in the final.

They don't actually play the final. A wild card is awarded to the winner of both the top and bottom half of the draw. IMO, top half much much stronger.

indiana · Tennis legend

Emily, Freya, the winner of Lisa vs Katie and Manisha for the SFs.

Emily and the winner of Lisa vs Katie to come through.

Sorry, just don't where Lisa is at. If she's pretty ready that could be an unfortunate draw for the loser of that R1 match.

paulisi · Tennis legend

EWS and Katie Swan are my predictions, although if Cav is playing as well as I've heard, she could be the surprise packet.

Jon · Junior player

I reckon the winner of Cav v Harriet will make it though the top half and Katie S will come through the bottom.

I'm still not sure how Cav made it in though. I can't see that she'd make top 10 using any ranking list that I'm aware of, even when accounting for injuries and players that are prioritising other things.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jon wrote:
I reckon the winner of Cav v Harriet will make it though the top half and Katie S will come through the bottom.

I'm still not sure how Cav made it in though. I can't see that she'd make top 10 using any ranking list that I'm aware of, even when accounting for injuries and players that are prioritising other things.

From the other thread, I'd reckoned that they must have worked their way through the top sign-ups, as per WTA rankings. And then used national rankings. And as Naomi's 1.1 nationally, presumably she was the top non-WTA-ranked player? Do you not think that could have been the logic?

Jon · Junior player

Coup Droit wrote:
Jon wrote:
I reckon the winner of Cav v Harriet will make it though the top half and Katie S will come through the bottom.

I'm still not sure how Cav made it in though. I can't see that she'd make top 10 using any ranking list that I'm aware of, even when accounting for injuries and players that are prioritising other things.

From the other thread, I'd reckoned that they must have worked their way through the top sign-ups, as per WTA rankings. And then used national rankings. And as Naomi's 1.1 nationally, presumably she was the top non-WTA-ranked player? Do you not think that could have been the logic?

Actually, that does make sense - I hadn't considered that they'd used the ratings rather than the rankings. It may be a debate for another time but for me the ratings are a nonsense and don't particularly reflect players' current form. (For instance, Naomi B and JoKo are rated lower than EWS, Anna Smith and Anna Fitzpatrick).

I think it would have been much fairer to use WR as the first criterion and then British Ranking rather than rating.

indiana · Tennis legend

It seems that most folk expect Freya and Manisha to come through their seemingly relatively easier quarters, but then lose the SF ( effectively the FQR ).

The potentially good news for them though is that Q WCs may well go to at least one women's losing SF here.

steven · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Jon wrote:
I reckon the winner of Cav v Harriet will make it though the top half and Katie S will come through the bottom.

I'm still not sure how Cav made it in though. I can't see that she'd make top 10 using any ranking list that I'm aware of, even when accounting for injuries and players that are prioritising other things.

From the other thread, I'd reckoned that they must have worked their way through the top sign-ups, as per WTA rankings. And then used national rankings. And as Naomi's 1.1 nationally, presumably she was the top non-WTA-ranked player? Do you not think that could have been the logic?

From what I remember, that is indeed the logic.

Lisa is happy

"I'm sooo happy right now I could burst. Not only did I win but I was actually on the tennis court playing a match and loving every minute!!"

She beat Katie Swan 2 & 5.

-- Edited by steven on Thursday 12th of June 2014 12:18:43 PM