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RE: Wimbledon 2013 - women's WCs & pre-draw discussion


Women:

Broady
Murray
Moore

Quallies:
Dunne
Boulter
Windley

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Doubles:

Broady/Danilidou
Konta/Moore
Rae/Smith

Fleming/Hutchins
Skupski/Skupski
Ward/Evans

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Looks like the GB men with 5 MD WC and 5 Q WC have done better than the women with only 3 of each. It means there will probably be more GB men than women in the main draw for the first time in a while.

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Are there any more doubles WCs left or is that it?

Seems very strange (and unfair) for Ward and Evans to get a doubles WC over Corrie/Smethurst, and to a lesser extent Willis/Burton and Rice/Thornley.

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TMH wrote:

Are there any more doubles WCs left or is that it?

Seems very strange (and unfair) for Ward and Evans to get a doubles WC over Corrie/Smethurst, and to a lesser extent Willis/Burton and Rice/Thornley.


 

It's OK - there's some left. Four, for the men's doubles.



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Lol that is hilarious I think - Dunne not receiving a MDWC but Kyle Edmund gets in and he is ranked 297 can someone explain that cause I just don't understand - if he had done something to prove he was worthy of that then I would be ok(don't get me wrong he is a really good player) but I just don't understand that lol

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ricardo89 wrote:

Lol that is hilarious I think - Dunne not receiving a MDWC but Kyle Edmund gets in and he is ranked 297 can someone explain that cause I just don't understand - if he had done something to prove he was worthy of that then I would be ok(don't get me wrong he is a really good player) but I just don't understand that lol


 Kyle is 297 so not too far outside the 250 limit, Katy is 440 so long way off. Plus Kyle is next in line after the 1st 4 WCs have been allocated so he is not leapfrogging anyone else, so less of an issue. Katy would overtake Jade and Emily WS to get a MDWC (ignoring Amanda Carreras who doesn't play on grass), she has already been put ahead of EWS no doubt on age and current form.

May actually help Katy getting a QWC anyway she should have a good chance of getting a win or two or even qualifying if she can maintain her current form.



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Sim wrote:
ricardo89 wrote:

Lol that is hilarious I think - Dunne not receiving a MDWC but Kyle Edmund gets in and he is ranked 297 can someone explain that cause I just don't understand - if he had done something to prove he was worthy of that then I would be ok(don't get me wrong he is a really good player) but I just don't understand that lol


 Kyle is 297 so not too far outside the 250 limit, Katy is 440 so long way off. Plus Kyle is next in line after the 1st 4 WCs have been allocated so he is not leapfrogging anyone else, so less of an issue. Katy would overtake Jade and Emily WS to get a MDWC (ignoring Amanda Carreras who doesn't play on grass), she has already been put ahead of EWS no doubt on age and current form.

May actually help Katy getting a QWC anyway she should have a good chance of getting a win or two or even qualifying if she can maintain her current form.


Kyle was an outstanding junior and will break into top 250 shortly. Katy is a good prospect but her ranking would not be acceptable as a WC main draw.  



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scottie1 wrote:
Sim wrote:
ricardo89 wrote:

Lol that is hilarious I think - Dunne not receiving a MDWC but Kyle Edmund gets in and he is ranked 297 can someone explain that cause I just don't understand - if he had done something to prove he was worthy of that then I would be ok(don't get me wrong he is a really good player) but I just don't understand that lol


 Kyle is 297 so not too far outside the 250 limit, Katy is 440 so long way off. Plus Kyle is next in line after the 1st 4 WCs have been allocated so he is not leapfrogging anyone else, so less of an issue. Katy would overtake Jade and Emily WS to get a MDWC (ignoring Amanda Carreras who doesn't play on grass), she has already been put ahead of EWS no doubt on age and current form.

May actually help Katy getting a QWC anyway she should have a good chance of getting a win or two or even qualifying if she can maintain her current form.


Kyle was an outstanding junior and will break into top 250 shortly. Katy is a good prospect but her ranking would not be acceptable as a WC main draw.  


 

Well, as said before, only a few weeks ago Fiona Ferro got a grand slam MD WC, with about exactly the same ranking as Katy Dunne has. I don't think there's a definitive 'acceptable' - obviously each federation does things differently.

 

Edit: And wasn't Kyle ranked about WR 440 last year when he got a MD Wildcard ? What's the difference between then and now?



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 11th of June 2014 06:13:21 PM

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Yes, I was just going to say Kyle was WR 444 at this time last year !

And while he did do well at Eastbourne and rise to WR 385 by Wimbledon, in this case Katy's Birmingham achievements, which will probably have her ranked higher than that, happened prior to the announcement.

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Coup Droit wrote:
scottie1 wrote:
Sim wrote:
ricardo89 wrote:

Lol that is hilarious I think - Dunne not receiving a MDWC but Kyle Edmund gets in and he is ranked 297 can someone explain that cause I just don't understand - if he had done something to prove he was worthy of that then I would be ok(don't get me wrong he is a really good player) but I just don't understand that lol


 Kyle is 297 so not too far outside the 250 limit, Katy is 440 so long way off. Plus Kyle is next in line after the 1st 4 WCs have been allocated so he is not leapfrogging anyone else, so less of an issue. Katy would overtake Jade and Emily WS to get a MDWC (ignoring Amanda Carreras who doesn't play on grass), she has already been put ahead of EWS no doubt on age and current form.

May actually help Katy getting a QWC anyway she should have a good chance of getting a win or two or even qualifying if she can maintain her current form.


Kyle was an outstanding junior and will break into top 250 shortly. Katy is a good prospect but her ranking would not be acceptable as a WC main draw.  


 

Well, as said before, only a few weeks ago Fiona Ferro got a grand slam MD WC, with about exactly the same ranking as Katy Dunne has. I don't think there's a definitive 'acceptable' - obviously each federation does things differently.

 

Edit: And wasn't Kyle ranked about WR 440 last year when he got a MD Wildcard ? What's the difference between then and now?

 


 But Kyle was an outstanding junior with a best junior ranking of 8 while Katy Dunne is merely a good prospect given her best junior ranking of 9. And Kyle had an impressive two 10K titles in the 12 months prior to receiving his Wimbledon maindraw WC last year while Katy has only managed to win two 10K titles in the last 12 months.

Sorry, even former LTA chief executive Roger Draper at his most persuasive, couldn't explain why the rules for Kyle are totally different to those for anyone else. Under the Kyle rules, Katie Boulter would be getting a maindraw WC this year as a high ranking junior and winner of a 10K event, reaching two other 10K finals.

 



-- Edited by kundalini on Wednesday 11th of June 2014 06:50:31 PM

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Hev is playing doubles with Bouchard

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Pre-Qualifying

(1)Emily Webley-Smith vs (wc)Aimee Gibson
Naomi Cavaday vs Harriet Dart
Beth Askew vs Freya Christie
(wc)Isabelle Wallace vs (4)Lucy Brown

(2)Lisa Whybourn vs (wc)Katie Swan
Eden Silva vs (wc)Jasmine Asghar
(wc)Gabriella Taylor vs Jessica Simpson
(wc)Maia Lumsden vs (2)Manisha Foster

Top half is much stronger. Particularly the top quarter with Harriet, Naomi and Em all in there.

Depending on how her shoulder is, Lisa could well come through this.

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Some kind person has to create new thread or change the title to 2014 as well - I have enough trouble remembering what day it is, and the year is a real no-hoper, so with this 2013 thread, my poor little brain is well confused . . . . :)

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I'm not suggesting I'm disappointed, but how did Naomi get direct acceptance for this? I thought it was based on ranking.

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