Davis Cup 2013 - World Group Playoff - Croatia v GB - 13-15 September

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Davis Cup 2013 - World Group Playoff - Croatia v GB - 13-15 September

steven · Tennis legend

M1: Andy Murray WR 3 beat Borna Coric WR 525 (=CH) by 6-3 6-0 6-3 - and a generous 5 ATP ranking points wink

M2: Dan Evans WR 149 v Ivan Dodig WR 35 (CH 32 in 2011)

Andy is now 15-1 in Davis Cup singles (Wawrinka is a right pain LOL) and, having cancelled out the loss in his one previous appearance in Croatia (lost to Ljubicic in R1 at Zagreb ATP in 2006), there are now unique answers to the questions:

1) Are there any countries where Andy has a negative W-L record at ATP/DC level? - now only Italy

2) Are there any countries where Andy has a negative W-L record in ATP-ranked matches as a whole? - now only Germany

-- Edited by steven on Friday 13th of September 2013 01:20:38 PM

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

cry Dan broken in set 2 - 2-4*

Edit - just noticed nobody has posted we lost the first set 6-3

-- Edited by Madeline on Friday 13th of September 2013 12:53:10 PM

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Weather is set fair and the breakfast buffet area was full of "AMFF forumites" this morning.

Armchair · County player

Five live extra are covering it from 10.00 if streaming is a problem.

RJA · Hall of fame

57 stroke rally on break point in the opening game.

seagull · Hall of fame

This kid is good!

stevemcqueen · Futures qualifying

I'm watching on Bet365 - the stream is ok, but how do I tell it to go full screen? I just have a small window. There does not seem to be the normal "full screen" icon, and I've done some googling but to no avail. Ideas, anyone?

Thanks

paulisi · Tennis legend

stevemcqueen wrote:
I'm watching on Bet365 - the stream is ok, but how do I tell it to go full screen? I just have a small window. There does not seem to be the normal "full screen" icon, and I've done some googling but to no avail. Ideas, anyone?
Thanks

i'm not sure you can get a full screen, but you can get a bigger screen by going to live screening and viewing on bet365 extra

steven · Tennis legend

You can't get the bet365 streams to go full screen, but if you are viewing it on a normal bet365 page, where it's very small indeed, you can make it a bit bigger by clicking the Live Streaming link at the very top (right-hand side), which opens their video player.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Coric is much better than I expected, but he won't be able to keep this level up and fitness will tell. Straight sets win for Andy, running away with sets 2 and 3.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

philwrig wrote:
steven wrote:
Noticed Bob in the crowd, looking completely relaxed despite Muzz making heavy weather of this early on ... plus earlier a few of the AMFFers waving flags.
Didn't see Bob, but then again given that he is an egg on twitter, its not exactly easy to spot someone that you have no idea what they look like ! however I did see plenty of Liz, who seemed to be shown everytime they wanted to show the GB support.

You might say I am an egg in real life as well - albeit a fried old wizzened one. That was me in the red shirt sitting next to Liz all the way through.

As spotted by my brother.

Mods feel free to remove if you think I am too ugly to appear here.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Friday 13th of September 2013 04:42:23 PM

stevemcqueen · Futures qualifying

I've found a good stream with Stream hunter, miles better than bet 365

http://www.streamhunter.eu/tennis-live-streaming-video.html

Miriambee · Futures level

steven wrote:
Yes it did, that is worrying.

On a different (DC-related) subject, Muzz is reported as saying today that he doesn't know why they don't make Davis Cup mandatory. He might well have hit the nail on the head - the top players might want to play DC, but they often seem to fear that if they do, they are giving an advantage to their rivals who miss it out.

The current method of trying to tempt players to take part, i.e. awarding ATP ranking points for World Group live rubber wins, is both unfair and largely ineffective (because for a top player, winning an ATP 500 event takes much less effort than winning lots of DC rubbers over 3 or 4 separate weeks, and if you aren't even in the World Group, it's no incentive at all) but if they did away with that and instead said that players had to make themselves available for each DC tie (or maybe at least 2 per year) and otherwise had to take zero-pointers (in the same way as they can count less optionals if they fail to play four 500-series events), that might go a long way towards solving the problem.

Obviously there could be collusion with captains over this (e.g. "I'm making myself available (whisper) as long as you don't pick me") but it would be more effective at removing the perceived advantage of skipping DC than any other method I can think of.

Agree with all the above, however it strikes me as a touch hypocritical that Andy is recommending it being mandatory on the tournament he decides to play, when he's opted out in the last couple of years.

steven · Tennis legend

Miriambee wrote:
steven wrote:
Yes it did, that is worrying.

On a different (DC-related) subject, Muzz is reported as saying today that he doesn't know why they don't make Davis Cup mandatory. He might well have hit the nail on the head - the top players might want to play DC, but they often seem to fear that if they do, they are giving an advantage to their rivals who miss it out.

The current method of trying to tempt players to take part, i.e. awarding ATP ranking points for World Group live rubber wins, is both unfair and largely ineffective (because for a top player, winning an ATP 500 event takes much less effort than winning lots of DC rubbers over 3 or 4 separate weeks, and if you aren't even in the World Group, it's no incentive at all) but if they did away with that and instead said that players had to make themselves available for each DC tie (or maybe at least 2 per year) and otherwise had to take zero-pointers (in the same way as they can count less optionals if they fail to play four 500-series events), that might go a long way towards solving the problem.

Obviously there could be collusion with captains over this (e.g. "I'm making myself available (whisper) as long as you don't pick me") but it would be more effective at removing the perceived advantage of skipping DC than any other method I can think of.
Agree with all the above, however it strikes me as a touch hypocritical that Andy is recommending it being mandatory on the tournament he decides to play, when he's opted out in the last couple of years.

But surely (and this is what I was trying to get across in my post) that's why he was trying to make the point he did - if top players know other top players are missing ties to try to gain an advantage, they feel under pressure to do the same (as he has in the past), whereas if it becomes something top players play as a matter of course (like the slams and the Masters events), then that would largely cease to be an issue.