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RE: Week 12 - ITF $15000 - Sunderland - Hard


Now that is slightly more of a story than : "by the way she won the next point too to level it at one set all".

WOW and must be devastating when you have already been struggling for wins.



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Surely not?! (though I guess it's not impossible to get pulled back from 40-0 then to get tight, etc)

Did someone who is there tell you that?

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Just unfollow him then!

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No way! It's almost so bad, it's good! When things are that that crass, there's a sort of peverted pleasure in sticking with it. And of course, if you make enough predictions, eventually by pure luck, some will come true.......

 



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Well said, korriban. I meam re not advertising the apparent nature of Fitzy's loss.

I know nothing of this Goldsmith guy, but even moreso when there are such folk around ready to make more of / twist things.

Ad I said, no doubt devastating enough for her.

Such is women's tennis and the momentum changes that we see, as soon as it got back to 5-1 it was there as much more of a possibility, if still a very outsde one.

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Why not tweet the specifics of the Fitzy match. Im pretty sure no one would have objected if it was the other way round and Fitzy was the one who made the stunning comeback!!

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korriban wrote:

Steven. A request, please don't tweet the specifics of this last result. I'm sure you wouldn't anyway, because you are Mr Class, as always. Noone would want that broadcast widely.

All that seems to happen these days is that Chris "TennisTalker" Goldsmith takes your tweets, rewrites them 5 minutes later (God I hate people that take the trouble to do that), with some unhelpful barbed comment attached in the hope that people notice him. Sorry to be specific, but for every 100 tweets he sends out (half a days worth?!), maybe 2 of them are not reworked from someone else, and maybe 2 have insight. Most are just questions or rehashes of other people's thoughts. If I had 5p for every time he accused people of tanking or throwing matches without even seeing the match, just the livescores............!!!

Yes he's annoying me immensely!


Don't worry, I'm certainly not "Mr Class" (though, er, thanks LOL) but I'm not that stupid - the idea is to get the basic facts out (good or bad) and highlight the good bits (which may include losses if the Brit takes a higher-ranked player close), which is hopefully how it comes across and I definitely try to avoid kicking players when they are down.

I might mention Anna's result half-hidden at the end of another tweet, but it won't be obvious from that exactly what happened. Thank goodness, in some ways, that it wasn't on live scores, because I'd have been tempted to tweet that she was a set and 5-0 up and then it would have been much harder.

I don't follow Chris (partly because it didn't seem worth following someone who was likely to be tweeting much the same things as me and partly to ensure that I didn't get tempted into a pointless 'battle' to beat him to tweeting results), so I had no idea he was generally tweeting later (*) or that he was doing the other things you mention. The tweets of his I have seen (either because someone I follow has RT'd them or when he has replied to one of my tweets) have never seemed too bad. I guess it says something about the media attitude to tennis in the UK if a budding journo feels that the only way to get noticed is to have a go at the players and try to stir spurious controversy.

(*) Having said that, he's not lucky enough to have you lot to alert him to results he might have missed. While I tend to look up most of the senior stuff myself (and try to credit people on here when they've come up with something particularly original that I haven't spotted), there's no way I'd pick up on the better junior results without the sterling work of DavidC and others and even with the senior stuff, it would be much harder to keep up with it all without so many people here keeping an eye on things.



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Good stuff, Steven. All makes sense.

While some of us are more prepared to be critical than others ( and I've said before I am not here to just be a flag waver ), the vast majority here including myself are followers of British tennis and British tennis players.

We make no claims to be unbiased, we care about how well they do and also, on the human side, have some regard to their feelings.

Long may it be so.

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Steven. To be absolutely fair, my friend Mr TennisTalker does ALSO report facts (in the case of GB players, very often rewitten versions of your tweets, a short time later; ditto for many overseas players - rewritten tweets from foreign journalists - not even the respect of retweeting). He also provides match running scores and often spurious commentary  without live streams being available (I find Flashscores or ITF livescore rather more useful). He can be and often is complimentary, but when there is even the slightest negative "angle" he goes for it big time, in order to have a "view", and amplifies/magnifies to create a bit of a story. The sheer volume of "noise" and predictions can also be deafening......Ratty would love it.

Seriously, if you want a laugh, take a peek..... 



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jake270392 wrote:

Why not tweet the specifics of the Fitzy match. Im pretty sure no one would have objected if it was the other way round and Fitzy was the one who made the stunning comeback!!


You're quite right that if Fitzy had come back from a set 0-5 and 0-40 down, I'd have tweeted it in gleeful detail. But in that case, the opponent wouldn't have been tagged, wouldn't be following and it's very unlikely any journalists from her country would be following either. For that reason, I'm a bit careful when someone like Amy Bowtell loses to a Brit too, even if it is nice to see the Brits turning the tables on her from time to time.

Plus, even if the opponent in a case like that had come across the tweet (e.g. by doing a search on their name), I think it's a completely different matter when someone who is obviously likely to have been a fan of your opponent reports a turnaround against you like that than if you are kicked by someone who is supposed to be on your side.



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Anna Smith lost 6-3 6-2

Emily Webley Smith has taken a Lucky Loser spot (replacing Bremond of France)

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Anna has just provided a bit of context herself:

Anna: "Playing a 3 and a 1/2 hour match on 2 hours sleep, not great. Losing the match after having 3match points...safe to say I've had better days"

If Emily has replaced Bremond, that must mean she's playing Naomi (?)



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Well at least we are now guaranteed having at least two Brits through ( Emily plays Naomi ).

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Couple of scores for you

Tara Moore 2-1 against Golubic of Switzerland

Lucy Brown trailing by a set and 5-2

Emily Webley Smith leads Naomi Broady 5-3

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Smidster wrote:

Couple of scores for you

Tara Moore 2-1 against Golubic of Switzerland

Lucy Brown trailing by a set and 5-2

Emily Webley Smith leads Naomi Broady 5-3


 Excellent !  looking forward to next installment !  thankyou



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