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Coup Droit


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GBJ wrote:
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Being reported everywhere that Vondrousova refused a test

She claims she was scared, mental health anxiety, because the person came at 8.15 pm, outside of hours, was scared it was a burglar

NB Outside of hours is specifically allowed

But it's rather undermined by (a) her having has a conversation and signed a refusal form (i.e. engaged with the person, no what you'd do if you thought it was a burglar) and (b) posted an insta picture a few months before of the same situation, and her having made the tester wait in the hallway .... (and also her message seemingly was posted after consultations with lawyers)

 I'm curious about this - if she is telling the truth then even with general anxiety disorder clouding things you'd think that a player might request immediately to have a test the next day or something to help show they were clean - I have not noticed any mention of this idea anywhere so wondered why this might be and whether this has tended to happen in any similar situation? 

 She had a test 3 (or 4?) days later - which was clean 

(But the sceptical have said, with detox drinks etc, that's not surprising)

Quite a lot of people speculating that it wasn't performance-enhancing drugs but recreational ones (it was 8.15 pm, in the off season, it's not an unreasonable assumption)

I'm not commenting really on that but:

The anxiety attack about unknown person / Kvitova style threat etc is suspect, IMO, because she allowed the woman in, she made her wait, she signed her forms (the form to refuse the test). She didn't call the police, a friend, a family member 

And posted about it on Insta (not the anxiety - just the intrusion of testers turning up)

You wouldn't do that - IMO - if you genuinely feared it was an unknown attacker. Or you were having a fullblown panic attack.

 



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Ummm Enhanced games only one world record broken

How do you interpret this? Is the juice worth the squeeze or is everybody juicing anyway we know performance enhancing drugs enhance performance so why arent records tumbling

When they shopped the East Germans throwing distances tumbled except for those of Judy Oakes became a medal contender!

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Christine


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Oakland2002 wrote:

Ummm Enhanced games only one world record broken

How do you interpret this? Is the juice worth the squeeze or is everybody juicing anyway we know performance enhancing drugs enhance performance so why arent records tumbling

When they shopped the East Germans throwing distances tumbled except for those of Judy Oakes became a medal contender!

 Or the people involved are second rate athletes who can't make it even with enhancement?



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Christine wrote:
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Ummm Enhanced games only one world record broken

How do you interpret this? Is the juice worth the squeeze or is everybody juicing anyway we know performance enhancing drugs enhance performance so why arent records tumbling

When they shopped the East Germans throwing distances tumbled except for those of Judy Oakes became a medal contender!

 Or the people involved are second rate athletes who can't make it even with enhancement?

 Precisely. It's a pity even one WR was broken ( well a performance ahead of what remains the legitimate WR was managed ).



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indiana wrote:
Christine wrote:
Oakland2002 wrote:

Ummm Enhanced games only one world record broken

How do you interpret this? Is the juice worth the squeeze or is everybody juicing anyway we know performance enhancing drugs enhance performance so why arent records tumbling

When they shopped the East Germans throwing distances tumbled except for those of Judy Oakes became a medal contender!

 Or the people involved are second rate athletes who can't make it even with enhancement?

 Precisely. It's a pity even one WR was broken ( well a performance ahead of what remains the legitimate WR was managed ).

 that guy wasnt even doping was he?! I am sure I read his enhancement was a special kit that is banned, not sure he took any drugs.

Whole thing is an farce.

 



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As a kid loved athletics David Jenkins was my hero the star of British Athletics that turned out well but it took a while
In my teenage years big fan of cycling superstar came back after highly toxic chemo almost enhanced and dominated the sport,

Sad to say in all things physiological if the results are so good you cant believe your eyes they are too good to be true.


the testers have always been so far behind the users.

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