Doping Again !

Oakland2002 · All-time great

RE: Doping Again !

JonH · All-time great

Concentration over a 3 hour match, calming the nerves? Not sure but I'm sure I read that as a possible reason somewhere today

skibbarriz · Strong Club Player

Simone Biles takes the ADHD medication Ritalin, which helps her concentration and focus while performing and training in gymnastics. Sounds like the kind of stuff one would seek taking for a sport like Curling too.

And the very diagnosis of ADHD is essentially an American invention. In Russian culture, they don't accept that activity in children is a medical condition. So they consequently think American gymnasts getting concentration drugs is a total swindle.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I was looking down the ITF's 2017 doping test sheet, available as a Pdf from this site:

www.itftennis.com/news/281703.aspx

I realise there will be some differences but am I right in reading that a whole heap of players (including well-known ones) have been tested 1-3 time in competition and not all outside. Whereas some players have been tested over 7 times in competition AND over 7 times outside?

And what about the huge number of players who aren't even on the list at all? Did they not get tested ever? (Not casting any aspersions, just wondering about the reasons for the big differences).

the addict · Tennis legend

I saw that list too, and spotted the same sort of things. Then I looked for some of our regular ITF tour players, and they weren't on the list at all. Yet we hear of lower ranked players getting bans ? Random testing, or just got caught by chance ?

Strongbow · All-time great

Don't know how this list works confuse

JonH · All-time great

According to this Dan Evans was tested at least 14 times. Yet he was caught out in April and stopped playing in June I think? Did they just keep on testing him regardless? Surely a waste of everyone's time when he'd actually stopped last year?!

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Not if he wants to come back. If he doesnt he can always tell the testers to clear off.

christ · Futures level

JonH wrote:
According to this Dan Evans was tested at least 14 times. Yet he was caught out in April and stopped playing in June I think? Did they just keep on testing him regardless? Surely a waste of everyone's time when he'd actually stopped last year?!

The irony being that the drug that he was caught using is not a drug that they test for out of competition.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

OK. This is not someone who's been caught doping. But someone who claims that the doping testing has ruined her tennis.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/43712888

Now, I've no idea about any of this (react badly to needles????) but surely tennis players don't have the blood taken from their main arm , especially if they know they are sensitive to it.

How can her serving arm be messed up? At the very least, she wouldn't have used that arm for the tests. Or is she saying that having a blood test from her other arm/elsewhere messed up her serving arm? Seriously?????

flamingowings · All-time great

Cornet's defense against her doping charge (for missing 3 tests) - broken intercom at her apartment building. The excuses are becoming ever move ridiculous.

twitter.com/simonrbriggs/status/996422969672044544

the addict · Tennis legend

Did you read the whole judgement ? The first two missed tests were when she was on the way to the airport to go to a tournament. And the efforts of the tester to make contact left a lot to be desired.

Since she has had dozens of clean tests, including very close to the missed dates, I'm inclined to believe her, even though it does sound rather a flimsy excuse.

JonH · All-time great

Many of us will still laugh at this but at least 10 months is something more like it should .

My wife is still taking her Anastrozole post being treated for cancer a couple of years ago, I must check we aren't eating tortellini tonight (sorry if that sounds glib - she is taking it - but I am still incredulous at this!)

PS At least Dan didnt say he got caught for coke by kissing someone in a nighclub...oh, of course, that one has been tried.

JonH · All-time great

Sorry I missed the link off so I suspect many wondered what on earth I was on about!

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/44440473

indiana · Tennis legend

CAS does on the whole seems to do a good job ( although I am sure there are many cases where folk would disagree ).

Didn't they in the Aljaz Bedene Davis Cup business make their legal judgement that they couldn't overturn the ITF ruling, but that it effectively did think the ITF were being very silly Billys and should have a think about things - unfortunately to no avail.