Week 38 - WTA ($220K) - Guangzhou, China - Hard

SMC1809 · All-time great

RE: Week 38 - WTA ($220K) - Guangzhou, China - Hard

NotAClue · Lower Club Player

She's also over 1000 points now I think, at 1003.

Julia Carrot · All-time great

NotAClue wrote:

A friend told me that they sing a song for Laura, to the tune of 'Lollipop' by the Chordettes

Lolli-Rob, Lolli-Rob, Oh! Lolli Lolli Lolli!
Lolli-Rob, Lolli-Rob, Oh! Lolli Lolli Lolli!
Lolli-Rob, Lolli-Rob, Oh! Lolli Lolli Lolli!
Lolli-Rob! *POP* (duh dum dum dum)
Call our favourite Lolli-Rob,
Tell you why, her forehand's sweeter than an apple pie
And when she's hitting winners in a trance
The others they don't stand a chance
We call her Lolli-Rob...

There is more, but I'll spare you all.

Errrr

That's kind

But maybe if the harmonies are good it might be OK

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Really miffed that Tokyo haven't given her a MDWC, maybe they will now, they've got two more to announce. On the other hand, she's probably best off getting good prep in for Beijing which is a higher ranked tourney.

indiana · Tennis legend

SMC1809 wrote:
I think I forecast 55 in the prediction game at the start of the year, so let's hope she exceeds my expectations.

I forecast WR 75. Still could be pretty close if she doesn't win another match. LOSE ! wink

indiana · Tennis legend

NotAClue wrote:
She's also over 1000 points now I think, at 1003.

Indeed. And 779 counting points have been added in the last 4 months, i.e. starting with Roland Garros.

Of her remaining 224 points, she's defending ( or not apparently next week ) 130 for the remainder of this year ( 70 next week, 30 the following week and 30 from Barnstaple at the end of October ) and just 94 for the first five month of next year.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

indiana wrote:
NotAClue wrote:
She's also over 1000 points now I think, at 1003.

Indeed. And 779 counting points have been added in the last 4 months, i.e. starting with Roland Garros.
Of her remaining 224 points, she's defending ( or not apparently next week ) 130 for the remainder of this year ( 70 next week, 30 the following week and 30 from Barnstaple at the end of October ) and just 94 for the first five month of next year.

So with a decent run in Beijing, she should easily go top 50.

indiana · Tennis legend

Helen40 wrote:
indiana wrote:
NotAClue wrote:
She's also over 1000 points now I think, at 1003.

Indeed. And 779 counting points have been added in the last 4 months, i.e. starting with Roland Garros.
Of her remaining 224 points, she's defending ( or not apparently next week ) 130 for the remainder of this year ( 70 next week, 30 the following week and 30 from Barnstaple at the end of October ) and just 94 for the first five month of next year.
So with a decent run in Beijing, she should easily go top 50.

The prospects for that are best during the first half of next year, with so little to defend, when frankly I'd be disappointed if she didn't get inton the top 50.

Very tough ask for after Beijing ( though the way she's playing, hmm.. )

As things stand, she's going to 1003 points on Monday. WR 50 is currently on 1221 points.

Now she will lose a net 62 points next week assuming she's not playing ( 70 - 8 ) and 30 points are due to come off in the Beijing week.

So that puts her back to 1003 - 62 - 30 = 911 ( before adding anything on for Beijing )

So she basically would need about another 310 points by the end of Beijing ( 1221 - 911 ).

If she wins the title here, that's another 150 points and you get 140 points for reaching R3 ( last 16 ) in Beijing so that would be 290 points so around the mark. That's a bit of a toughee both to win the title here and to reach the last 16 of a mandatory ( though I guess she did that at the US Open )

Alternatively, 250 points for reaching the QF in Beijing would be very helpful smile

E&OE

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

indiana wrote:
Helen40 wrote:
indiana wrote:
NotAClue wrote:
She's also over 1000 points now I think, at 1003
Indeed. And 779 counting points have been added in the last 4 months, i.e. starting with Roland Garros.
Of her remaining 224 points, she's defending ( or not apparently next week ) 130 for the remainder of this year ( 70 next week, 30 the following week and 30 from Barnstaple at the end of October ) and just 94 for the first five month of next year.
So with a decent run in Beijing, she should easily go top 50.
The prospects for that are best during the first half of next year, with so little to defend, when frankly I'd be disappointed if she didn't get inton the top 50.
Very tough ask for after Beijing ( though the way she's playing, hmm.. )
As things stand, she's going to 1003 points on Monday. WR 50 is currently on 1221 points.
Now she will lose a net 62 points next week assuming she's not playing ( 70 - 8 ) and 30 points are due to come off in the Beijing week.
So that puts her back to 1003 - 62 - 30 = 911 ( before adding anything on for Beijing )
So she basically would need about another 310 points by the end of Beijing ( 1221 - 911 ).
If she wins the title here, that's another 150 points and you get 140 points for reaching R3 ( last 16 ) in Beijing so that would be 290 points so around the mark. That's a bit of a toughee both to win the title here and to reach the last 16 of a mandatory ( though I guess she did that at the US Open )Alternatively, 250 points for reaching the QF in Beijing would be very helpful

I'm a little confused. Shouldn't she have 881 + 130 = 1011 come Monday as she's got no points to defend this week?

That would put her in at WR 61 on this week's points.

SMC1809 · All-time great

Only the best 16 scores count so her current 16th best (8 points) would drop off.

indiana · Tennis legend

Helen40 wrote:
indiana wrote:
Helen40 wrote:
indiana wrote:
NotAClue wrote:
She's also over 1000 points now I think, at 1003
Indeed. And 779 counting points have been added in the last 4 months, i.e. starting with Roland Garros.
Of her remaining 224 points, she's defending ( or not apparently next week ) 130 for the remainder of this year ( 70 next week, 30 the following week and 30 from Barnstaple at the end of October ) and just 94 for the first five month of next year.
So with a decent run in Beijing, she should easily go top 50.
The prospects for that are best during the first half of next year, with so little to defend, when frankly I'd be disappointed if she didn't get inton the top 50.
Very tough ask for after Beijing ( though the way she's playing, hmm.. )
As things stand, she's going to 1003 points on Monday. WR 50 is currently on 1221 points.
Now she will lose a net 62 points next week assuming she's not playing ( 70 - 8 ) and 30 points are due to come off in the Beijing week.
So that puts her back to 1003 - 62 - 30 = 911 ( before adding anything on for Beijing )
So she basically would need about another 310 points by the end of Beijing ( 1221 - 911 ).
If she wins the title here, that's another 150 points and you get 140 points for reaching R3 ( last 16 ) in Beijing so that would be 290 points so around the mark. That's a bit of a toughee both to win the title here and to reach the last 16 of a mandatory ( though I guess she did that at the US Open )Alternatively, 250 points for reaching the QF in Beijing would be very helpful
I'm a little confused. Shouldn't she have 881 + 130 = 1011 come Monday as she's got no points to defend this week?

That would put her in at WR 61 on this week's points.

She can only count 16 tournaments so she has to drop her current "16th counter" which is 8 points when she adds this week'st points.

SMC1809 · All-time great

Please refer to the bible http://www.britishtennis.net/gbtop25f/currentf.htm

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Oh, I see, I keep forgetting about that especially with her as this is the first year that she's been old/injury free enough for this to be more relevant.

NotAClue · Lower Club Player

Helen40 wrote:
I'm a little confused. Shouldn't she have 881 + 130 = 1011 come Monday as she's got no points to defend this week?
That would put her in at WR 61 on this week's points.

You have to take off the 8 points form her weakest currently counting event. The 16/16 allowable counting events - L16 Clearwater 25K April this year.

So, you get 881 + 122 (130 - 8 ) = 1003.

You might also have to consider which points were going to come off even if you fifn't want them to because they are expiring from the year long duration that they can count to your ranking. But that is not the case with Laura. She is just upgrading the worst of her sixteen counting tournaments.

Laura's weakest counting event is actually the Fench Open - 5 points for WC and R128.

But GS points are mandatory - if you qualify for them by rank, and do not play; or qualify; or play in the main draw; then those points must be amongst your 16 counting results. Laura has to include those 5. Just as Bally has to include her US Open 2012 result of zero points in her 16 counting events. Because her ranking earned her a place in the draw. Her injury non-participation is immaterial. The counterbalance to GS double points if you like - you will do everuthing to attend and win, as you know it's gonna sit on your record.

indiana · Tennis legend

As a piece of fairly inconsequential nonsense, in Monday's rankings, Laura, Heather and Anne will all have "16th best" of 14 points ( as NotAClue says any lower mandatories have to count ).

Does at least suggest, on top of her big points hauls, an improved consistency from Laura in at least getting through one round. Though, as Helen indicated, she does have so many more chances now with her age restrictions removed.