Week 49 Futures - Turkey F34 ($10K) - Antalya - Hard

steven · Tennis legend

Week 49 Futures - Turkey F34 ($10K) - Antalya - Hard

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QR1: Darren Walsh WR 1514 lost to (q11) Josip Mesin (CRO) WR 1108 by 6-3 6-7(0) 4-6
QR1: (q5) Miki Jankovic (SRB) WR 873 defeated Alan Bevan UNR by 6-2 7-6(3)

-- Edited by Stircrazy on Monday 5th of December 2011 01:53:50 PM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Oli's in the main draw, but it's not out yet. The doubles is, however, & he has yet another partner:

R1: (4) Oliver Golding & Jean-René Lisnard (MON) vs Antonio Comporto & Riccardo Sinicropi (ITA/ITA)

steven · Tennis legend

Just what he always wanted ... doh!

L32: Oli Golding WR 701 v (1) Ludovic Walter (FRA) WR 334

The only consolation is that it probably isn't Walter's preferred draw either - Oli was the only player who took more than 7 games off him last week!

Shhh · Challenger level

Its off isn't it but, if Oli drew Walter in a challenger we'd feel it a good draw. An ATP event an excellent draw or in a Grand Slam.....a draw from heaven and a golden opprtunity to progress. Get him in a futures however and it feels like to Gods are against him!

indiana · Tennis legend

Shhh wrote:
Its off isn't it but, if Oli drew Walter in a challenger we'd feel it a good draw. An ATP event an excellent draw or in a Grand Slam.....a draw from heaven and a golden opprtunity to progress. Get him in a futures however and it feels like to Gods are against him!

Err, yes confuse

Shhh · Challenger level

It makes sense to me indiana, though maybe I can't put it into words.

If Oli (on a WC) got a player ranked as low as Walter in a big tounament, avoiding several top 100 players, we'd think it a right result and believe he could take the opportunity.

When he draws him as top seed in a 10k, when there were several ranked outside the top 600, then it seems a lousy piece of luck.

Its the same player, just the enviroment in which he is playing him that has changed, and thats seems to change our expectations (or mine at least)

Julia Carrot · All-time great

It's all in the mind

But actually I thought you put it very well 'into words' on the first attempt

indiana · Tennis legend

Whatever, it's a decent scalp to go for whatever the tournament, and I am sure Oli will feel he has a chance. Also, another revenge mission after the Coco turnaround last week smile

But given it is a futures, and all the other possibilities, it IS a pretty lousy draw.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 5th of December 2011 08:46:50 PM

steven · Tennis legend

Shhh wrote:
Its off isn't it but, if Oli drew Walter in a challenger we'd feel it a good draw. An ATP event an excellent draw or in a Grand Slam.....a draw from heaven and a golden opprtunity to progress. Get him in a futures however and it feels like to Gods are against him!

Yes, that's true, and based on last week's scoreline, Oli clearly has a chance against Walter (indeed, the bookies make it as high as 35-40%), but to me the various different feelings you describe above are not inconsistent with each other.

I say that because if Oli had drawn Walter in R1 of the main draw of a higher level event (or even been set to meet him in, say, the SFs of a Futures event rather than in R1), it would indeed have looked like a great opportunity to pick up 4+ points (Futures semi), 6+ points (Challenger R1) or even 20 points (ATP R1)

The reason it is unlucky to draw him in R1 of this event is that Walter (based on his no. 1 seeding and the fact that he won the title without dropping a set last week) is clearly the strongest player he could have been drawn against and if he does pull off the upset, he will only get a single ranking point for it.

steven · Tennis legend

Oli: (who was due to start at 09.00 GMT according to bet365 - still no OoP on the ATP site) "Despite it not having rained for 3 weeks here in turkey. We are 2 hours late starting because the courts are soaked ! #onlyinturkey"

I wonder what the explanation is ...

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

The match following Oli's is in the closing stages of the second set on Bet365, but there's no sign of a tweeted result from him! confuse

KK · Club Coach

Stircrazy wrote:
The match following Oli's is in the closing stages of the second set on Bet365, but there's no sign of a tweeted result from him!

So likely that he lost then.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

KK wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
The match following Oli's is in the closing stages of the second set on Bet365, but there's no sign of a tweeted result from him!
So likely that he lost then.

Sadly, yes, by 3 & 3, according to the ITF. cry

steven · Tennis legend

12 sets in a row now for Walter.