Hmm,  0 - 40 to a few deuces but  5 - 4 *.  Break for it then I guess 

Just as much chance

Stircrazy wrote:

---

 

Why is saying what I said being "wimpy"?   Realistic, more like!  I'm a natural pessimist & I've had my hopes for/expectations of British players dashed/confounded far too often now to be prepared to assume that victory for any one of them is in the bag until the last ball has been struck.  That said, I said what I said in the fervent hope that it would have the opposite effect & that my expectations would be confounded in a positive way!

Re your edit, no, things happen because, by & large, most of them ain't good enough to do much more than muddle along in Futures & lower level Challengers!  Doesn't make want to stop supporting them & hoping for the best, nor make me feel like transferring my allegiance to players with more obvious talent and/or potential from elsewhere, though.

-- Edited by Stircrazy on Tuesday 23rd of August 2011 12:12:50 PM

---

 While it may be pessimistic how is expecting WR365 to lose to WR370 and WR317 to lose to WR741 a realistic view?

Josh wrote:

---

Stircrazy wrote:

---

Why is saying what I said being "wimpy"?   Realistic, more like!  I'm a natural pessimist & I've had my hopes for/expectations of British players dashed/confounded far too often now to be prepared to assume that victory for any one of them is in the bag until the last ball has been struck.  That said, I said what I said in the fervent hope that it would have the opposite effect & that my expectations would be confounded in a positive way!

Re your edit, no, things happen because, by & large, most of them ain't good enough to do much more than muddle along in Futures & lower level Challengers!  Doesn't make want to stop supporting them & hoping for the best, nor make me feel like transferring my allegiance to players with more obvious talent and/or potential from elsewhere, though.

---

 While it may be pessimistic how is expecting WR365 to lose to WR370 and WR317 to lose to WR741 a realistic view?

---

Because our boys (& girls) seem to have quite a talent for losing to more lowly ranked opponents, even when they aren't injured!  Consequently, I generally expect the worst & am pleasantly surprised when they come up trumps!

Stircrazy wrote:

---

indiana wrote:

---

Stircrazy wrote:

---

Fantastic win for Alex by 2-6 6-2 6-2!  

I suppose that means that Dan & Josh are now going to fall flat on their respective arses, given that they're both Brits & that there's that unwritten rule which states that we're destined never to see three, let alone four, out of four Brits triumph in an overseas Challenger event!

---

 Gee, SC, how to dampen the mood     

Hopefully the players don't read much of the wimpy British stuff that comes out on this forum at times 

( edit : though I am generally for folk at times saying what they really think irrespective of players reading our ramblings.  It's just I don't buy into this things happen just because they're British stuff  )

 

---

Why is saying what I said being "wimpy"?   Realistic, more like!  I'm a natural pessimist & I've had my hopes for/expectations of British players dashed/confounded far too often now to be prepared to assume that victory for any one of them is in the bag until the last ball has been struck.  That said, I said what I said in the fervent hope that it would have the opposite effect & that my expectations would be confounded in a positive way!

Re your edit, no, things happen because, by & large, most of them ain't good enough to do much more than muddle along in Futures & lower level Challengers!  Doesn't make want to stop supporting them & hoping for the best, nor make me feel like transferring my allegiance to players with more obvious talent and/or potential from elsewhere, though.

-- Edited by Stircrazy on Tuesday 23rd of August 2011 12:12:50 PM

---

Yes, I get as frustrated I presume just about as much as anyone when a Brit loses a match I thought they could / should have won.  But yes, you are right that's generally because they are not good enough, not because of some intrinsic thing about being British, that some, notably yourself, often bring into the proceedings. I guess it is as you say just being pessimistic, which is one thing that probably is more a  British thing

So often I read on here assocating negative things with players apparently just because they are British,  get broken when serving fo the match, lose from in front,  lose tight matches yeah typically British as if other players don't do such things. Or unwritten rules such as say  2 get through so no more will do just because they are British   Yes, they will if they are good enough, being British has nout to do with it. Generally, our good players on form win matches, our bad players don't.  As far as I can see they win their fair share of tight matches.  Some are lucky, some are unlucky, some have upset losses, some have upset wins ( and we don't think that is because their opponent is typically French / Italian /  Costa Rican or whatever ). They are just typical tennis players.

Although it's something I have long felt, I usually let such things pass with a slightly exasperated smile, which I promise to do for the future ( well, a reasonably long future    )   So, if folk just want to announce half way through a final set that he / she is probably still going to lose from in front, "because they are British " then I won't say a word on the British angle    

jmjhb wrote:

---

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Josh won 6-3 6-4

---

 Hey, no it wasn't mentioned amongst the other ramblings     Full house   

indiana wrote:

---

jmjhb wrote:

---

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Josh won 6-3 6-4

---

 Hey, no it wasn't mentioned amongst the other ramblings     Full house   

---

See!  It worked!