Week 31 - Challenger ($100K) - Vancouver, Canada - Hard

seagull · Hall of fame

RE: Week 31 - Challenger ($100K) - Vancouver, Canada - Hard

Mervatron · Masters Series Champion

Its good to see James continuing to move up after Queens. Could have easily been a grass court thing but he seems to be moving on up.

Would be good to see him qualify at the US open too

indiana · Tennis legend

I was looking at the live rankings on http://live-tennis.eu/ which have James at WR 150.

They can be useful, as are their race figures, but I notice that they have already been adjusted for next week's points movements, so are not really telling us the rankings for this coming Monday.

eg. they have the top players points adjusted for Montreal, and more particularly re James ranking :

seagull's figures correctly show for instance :

Dabul : 326 - 10 + 33 = 349

Ciric : 346 - 5 + 6 = 347

The live rankings site seems to have further adjusted for next week :

Dabul : 349 - 15 + 6 = 340

Ciric : 347 - 9 + 2 = 340

So looks as if seagull's source may have it right. Where does that come from seagull ?

seagull · Hall of fame

indiana wrote:
seagull's figures correctly show for instance :
Dabul : 326 - 10 + 33 = 349
Ciric : 346 - 5 + 6 = 347
The live rankings site seems to have further adjusted for next week :
Dabul : 349 - 15 + 6 = 340
Ciric : 347 - 9 + 2 = 340
So looks as if seagull's source may have it right. Where does that come from seagull ?

My own spreadsheet which is not perfect but I think right in this case.

And yes the link you provided already has taken off next weeks defences

indiana · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
Doh! Just when I had finally become convinced that live-tennis.eu could be trusted! Not that it's wrong of course, just a bit misleading in circumstances like this.

Thanks seagull ... I should never trust sources that don't emanate from here - at least not without going through the figures myself.

-- Edited by steven on Sunday 7th of August 2011 02:23:41 PM

Yes, don't know if there is a specific time each week that live-tennis.eu start adjusting for the following week, and hence are no longer an effective guide to the coming Monday. Presumably pretty late in the week / weekend, but I've not followed it enough to know. This week the Montreal adjustments kinda gave the clue.

steven · Tennis legend

Doh! Just when I had finally become convinced that live-tennis.eu could be trusted! Not that it's wrong of course, just a bit misleading in circumstances like this.

Thanks seagull ... I should never trust sources that don't emanate from here - at least not without going through the figures myself, though the fact that two people I follow had (seemingly independently) tweeted that James would definitely be in the top 150 if he won increased my false confidence. Of course, they might have both used the sam source and not even allowed for Burquier still being able to overtake. I didn't have time to go through all the figures, so I just checked the ones for the players who were still in.

Lesson learnt ... until next time, anyway LOL

(the reason this appears after Indiana's reply is that I managed to delete the original post when I was trying to edit it - it's really not my weekend ashamed LOL)

-- Edited by steven on Sunday 7th of August 2011 03:07:23 PM

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

No it isn't - SC has ticked you off for a typo on another thread!

S&V · Club Coach

The women just finished so hopefully this is on soon.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yep, the Brit slayer Wozniak has slayed everyone else. But hopefully GB will have the last laugh. Go, James !

S&V · Club Coach

Wardy serves first

S&V · Club Coach

Woo hoo breaks for 2-0

airsmashers · County player

tight opening two games

andyjmr · Intermediate Club Player

Exciting! just like the good old days, watching the livescore late at night when andy was playing aptos and binghampton :)

S&V · Club Coach

Id prefer a livestream but this is so old school as you say! 5-2 Wardy

steven · Tennis legend

Good start

but just as I get here, it all goes a bit wrong - 0-15, df 0-30, come on James, don't let him get back into it!

15-30, 15-40 ...