Sometimes your methodology, in expressing an opinion, can be formed as a comparison. For example between Kuhn and Popper, on the scientific method, or Kant and Hegel, on metaphysics and ontology, Marx and Feuerbach on historical materialism , Nietzsche and Heidegger, on existentialism, or, Boggo and Audley Harrison, on charlatan sportsmen.
He's limp he's slow His name is Boggo BOGGO, BOGGO! He's limp he's slow His name is Boggo BOGGO, BOGGO! B-O-G-G-O He couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo! B-O-G-G-O He couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo!
When will the moderators lock this thread, by the way?
-- Edited by Salmon on Wednesday 6th of July 2011 08:29:48 PM
Err, why ?
I would guess most folk, whatever their views on Boggo ( and he does certainly divide opinion to an extent ) would consider Jason's views absolutely OTT and just factually nonsense in some of his statements and implications.
But he has not been abusive to anyone, been pretty boring ( but that is hardly a crime )
At the risk of it being being peceived by anyone with a far too wandering mind that I have any personal interest here, I'd say :
OTT nonsense ( to the extent that it is not unreasonable that some folk will perceive it as trolling ) can be annoying, but I defend to the earth anyone's right to come out with OTT nonsense, So unless and until anyone shows anything else going on, or Jason or indeed his detractors get unnecessarily personal, there's absolutely no reason to my mind to be locking this thread.
Indeed other folk are absolutely free to ignore Jason's wafflings and just concentrate on the tournament. Instead some folk continue to actively engage in discussion with him.
-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 7th of July 2011 12:17:56 AM
I think Jason is completely out of order. Boggo is a hard worker who always gives 100% Utterly ridiculous to imply that he's lazy, when it's obvious that he just doesn't like spending too long at tournaments! Also, Boggo is NOT slow, he just takes his time on the court. I'll have an issue with any man/woman who says differently! What Jason fails to understand is that a tennis player shouldn't be judged on how many matches or tournaments he wins, but should instead be judged on the potential some people said they had about 8 years ago. I mean you can say what you like about Federer, Djokovic, Nadal and Murray, but I mean come on, who here remembers when Boggo got into the quarter finals of Newport in 2006? THAT'S WHAT HE SHOULD BE JUDGED ON!
The argument about his poor Wimbledon record is a classic straw man tactic. The records stand for themselves, and Boggo played serious quality every year, including such world beaters as Sargsian, Kevin Kim, Chris Guccione and Simone Bolelli, I mean these guys are the top names in mens tennis, never mind Federer and Nadal! Compare him to Bernard Tomic, an 18 year old qualifier from Australia, who made it through to the main draw only to get given an easy ride to the quarter finals. I mean who couldn't beat, in the first round, the former world number 3, Nikolay Davydenko? Who couldn't come back from 2-0 down to beat the former French Open quarter finalist, Igor Andreev? Who couldn't then defeat the current world no 5, and former French Open runner up, Robin Soderling? Who couldn't then go on and absolutely trounce the former Wimbledon semi-finalist, Xavier Malisse? And as for taking a set off the current best player in the world in a Wimbledon quarter final? Well ,WHO COULDN'T? Boggo must've been rolling in his bed, he would have loved the kind of easy draws that Tomic got!
So yes, Jason, leave Boggo alone, he is a potentially average, unlucky, would-be-champion, whose fans apparently think that 'well everybody he plays is better than him', is a good excuse for his failure to achieve any of his goals, and I, for one, damn well agree with them! I mean when Murray was starting his career, he didn't have to beat anybody ranked way above him, or with more experience than him, did he?
That's what's wrong with people like Jason, they clearly don't understand that tennis isn't about winning or succeeding. It's about losing and failing, and then coming up with obnoxious excuses about why you are a failure and a loser. In this way, Boggo encompasses everything good about tennis, just look at his excuses for his failure to advance past the first round in Wimbledon after 8 years of getting a free ride! THAT is tennis.
-- Edited by Wolfie Wilson on Wednesday 6th of July 2011 10:42:21 PM
Just a bit of info on that WTT appearance by Boggo, he got a call at 3.30 whilst he was still at Newport, asking if he'd like to play a match in the evening, match was at 7pm, venue was 2 & 1/2 hrs drive away. He got there at 6.50pm :) not he greatest of preparation it has to be said.
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I would have deleted many posts in this thread if there was still any British interest in Newport: as there isn't, go ahead and amuse yourselves if you must, children, as far as I am concerned. Nobody has to read it. Maybe it should be moved to General Tennis discussion, though.
Yes, but does RBBOT double edit her/his posts and keep both the tags? I know that you do!
That sounds as though I'm pretty cool, but since I don't know what double editing or keeping tags means, the coolness is obviously just inbuilt into everything I do.
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Just a bit of info on that WTT appearance by Boggo, he got a call at 3.30 whilst he was still at Newport, asking if he'd like to play a match in the evening, match was at 7pm, venue was 2 & 1/2 hrs drive away. He got there at 6.50pm :) not he greatest of preparation it has to be said.
This is typical of the pathetic excuses that we have come to expect from the no good, lazy, under achieving, waste of space, diagrace to his country that is Alex Bogdanovic. I have revised my previous opinion, a flogging would be too good for him, he should be keelhauled
Yes, but does RBBOT double edit her/his posts and keep both the tags? I know that you do!
That sounds as though I'm pretty cool, but since I don't know what double editing or keeping tags means, the coolness is obviously just inbuilt into everything I do.
Yes, I guess you rank quite high in the coolness quotient charts!
What I meant was... everytime someone edits a post, the "edited by..." thing is automatically tagged onto the post. When someone edits a post twice, there's the option of not keeping all but the last tag by simple deleting the previous ones, which is what most people do, I believe. But some people keep multiple tags - and I've noticed it in at least one post of yours.
-- Edited by Salmon on Thursday 7th of July 2011 09:45:19 AM