Week 23 - ATP 250 - AEGON Championships, Queen's Club

British_is_Best · County player

RE: Week 23 - ATP 250 - AEGON Championships, Queen's Club

Keyser Soze · Social player

wow cox got absolutley nailed...surely a wimbledon main draw wildcard cant follow that when he has not even done real damage at even challenger level. hope ward can push on and get an upset against warwrinka. i think they should have at least put the brits on courts where people can watch via the internet or on interactive if they want too see it...its a shame

murray_2k9 · Challenger qualifying

The logic behind a WC is that they are a decent enough player capable of playing at or near the level of the competition & are more often than not, from the home country. There is no reasonable argument that, for me, can explain this weird tradition of just putting one match on the centre court. Wont whine anymore as I know you all agree but we want more people to play in this country yet arent proud enough of our home players to put them on the stage courts in front of the worlds audience.

Any wonder why British kids arent picking up their racquets when the British events replace Brits with Spaniards and Russians in their late 20s/early 30s. I'm sure loads of British kids can relate to them.....

indiana · Tennis legend

British_is_Best wrote:
steven wrote:
Wardy won easily - anyone surprised? No, I thought not. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on against 4th seed Wawrinka in R2.

Well Wawrinka is far from comfortable on the grass, having an 8-11 career record on the surface and, in fact is going for his first grass court win outside of Wimbledon as he is 0-5 in other grass court events. (R32 s-Hertogenbosch 2005, R32 Halle 2006-07 and R32 Nottingham 2006-07).

Wawrinka was worryingly good against Muzza at Wimbledon in 2009 on err indoor grass.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 6th of June 2011 02:24:50 PM

murray_2k9 · Challenger qualifying

Cant work out if I like Goldings attitude quite yet. Seems either really negative or that he really believes he deserves this and should be doing better...

Still a decent start 2-1* Mahut

steven · Tennis legend

murray_2k9 wrote:
The logic behind a WC is that they are a decent enough player capable of playing at or near the level of the competition & are more often than not, from the home country. There is no reasonable argument that, for me, can explain this weird tradition of just putting one match on the centre court. Wont whine anymore as I know you all agree but we want more people to play in this country yet arent proud enough of our home players to put them on the stage courts in front of the worlds audience.

Any wonder why British kids arent picking up their racquets when the British events replace Brits with Spaniards and Russians in their late 20s/early 30s. I'm sure loads of British kids can relate to them.....

Yes, goodness knows why they thought Tursunov v F-Loppy was a more worthwhile match than the all-GB one, though I guess it meant even those with just ground tickets had the option of seeing James and Dan play.

There seems to be a policy of only putting Brits on the main televised court when they are extremely likely to lose. Not sure that's a great PR move!

steven · Tennis legend

murray_2k9 wrote:
Cant work out if I like Goldings attitude quite yet. Seems either really negative or that he really believes he deserves this and should be doing better...

Still a decent start 2-1* Mahut

He doesn't look too out of place here, I don't think. Whether or not he's got more potential than the likes of Liam longer term, it's not hard to see why the LTA thought he was the best junior to risk a MD WC on at this stage.

Btw, my comment about not being at all surprised to see Wardy beat Coix convincingly simply reflects the fact that I expect a regular Challenger player to have too much for a regular Futures winner at an event like this (ame way I wasn't surprised when Boggo mashed Smethurst in the qualies her last year), even if it might be a lot closer if Wardy dropped down to Futures and they met there.

murray_2k9 · Challenger qualifying

Yeh true, its nice for those who turned up to be able to watch the Brits too. Golding is putting in a good showing against Mahut but I imagine fans of the Frenchie would be rather worried if he were to lose this one.

steven · Tennis legend

Yes, I'd be stunned if Oli even got close to winning a set - it's just the fact he doesn't really play like a junior, which seemed to limit the chances of him suffering double bakery.

Keyser Soze · Social player

really impressed with goldings shot making ability so far

murray_2k9 · Challenger qualifying

He does show very typical mental signs of a junior though - looking into the crowd a lot, talking to himself after virtually every point (ie. over-thinking everything) sulking/reprimanding himself disproportionately after losing points, making some pretty bizarre shot choices yet showing the odd signs of brilliance that took him to the top of the junior game. That said, he looks like he doesnt look like the sort to roll over and play dead. Definitely seems like a fighting mentality thus far

steven · Tennis legend

Castle and *shock* even JL are sounding impressed with Golding so far.

I know this is going to sound weird, but he reminds me a bit of Bally a few years ago - she always went for it a lot more than the other Brits but often made some horrendous UEs, usually long or wide. That's since turned out pretty ok of course.

steven · Tennis legend

murray_2k9 wrote:
He does show very typical mental signs of a junior though - looking into the crowd a lot, talking to himself after virtually every point (ie. over-thinking everything) sulking/reprimanding himself disproportionately after losing points, making some pretty bizarre shot choices yet showing the odd signs of brilliance that took him to the top of the junior game. That said, he looks like he doesnt look like the sort to roll over and play dead. Definitely seems like a fighting mentality thus far

Very true, though some would say you just gave a pretty good description of Andy Murray (on a bad day) wink

murray_2k9 · Challenger qualifying

Yeah I re-read that and thought...hang on....though obviously Murrays able to compensate by just being better! Its a normal process anyway, most juniors seem to do it because they cant understand why playing how they normally do / even better is leaving them so comfortably in the dust - Heather being an obvious exception IMO who seemed to adjust incredibly well to seniors, accept everything and improve with every match rather than focusing on the negatives.

I'll give the Bally analogy, they both have an air of 'if it could just click consistantly it could be devastating' and likewise neither Oli or Bally ever have the air of a player who doesnt feel worthy of being there. I do hope it clicks with Golding sooner than it did with Bally though.

-- Edited by murray_2k9 on Monday 6th of June 2011 03:04:45 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
murray_2k9 wrote:
He does show very typical mental signs of a junior though - looking into the crowd a lot, talking to himself after virtually every point (ie. over-thinking everything) sulking/reprimanding himself disproportionately after losing points, making some pretty bizarre shot choices yet showing the odd signs of brilliance that took him to the top of the junior game. That said, he looks like he doesnt look like the sort to roll over and play dead. Definitely seems like a fighting mentality thus far
Very true, though some would say you just gave a pretty good description of Andy Murray (on a bad day)

Yep, trouble is on the mental side, Andy sadly does still often act much like a junior cry

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 6th of June 2011 03:07:33 PM