Wimbledon wild cards 2011

Smidster · Challenger level

RE: Wimbledon wild cards 2011

steven · Tennis legend

Doubles wild cards @wimbledon 2011

Eaton/Marray, Eaton/Goodall, Fleming/Hutchins 2 TBC

Borwell/South, Keothavong/Robson, Rae/Watson 2TBC

Chris seems to have got two LOL

Count Zero · Tennis legend

as expected no love for Blooms who doesnt get a QWC, hopefully he'll come through the play off.

RCD · Intermediate Club Player

Suppose Falla's WC may be recognition of him nearly dumping Federer out in R1 last year

indiana · Tennis legend

Smidster wrote:
Qualies

Men

Baker, Boggo, Broady, Golding, Milton, Morgan

Women

Fitpatrick. Moore, South

Only 3 for the women seems odd.

No, only 3 for the women is right, assuming as appears to be the case that all 5 in the top 250 ( without DEs ) have got main draw WCs. The LTA always said they would recommend 8 players ( aside from the play-offs ) in total ( MD plus Q )

They've gone by the rankings for the 3 and to be fair ( with Lisa injured and Cav retired ) these 3 are well clear of anyone else.

( edit : though they do appear to have announced 9 in total ( 3 + 6 ) for the men confuse )

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 7th of June 2011 11:19:48 AM

indiana · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
Doubles wild cards @wimbledon 2011

Eaton/Marray, Eaton/Goodall, Fleming/Hutchins 2 TBC

Borwell/South, Keothavong/Robson, Rae/Watson 2TBC

Chris seems to have got two LOL

Ha Ha, poor Delgado !

Re Chris, well he should arguably have 2 incl one singles Q WC ( such a pity his form has dropped off which lessened the arguement ). Morgan ?!

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 7th of June 2011 10:48:06 AM

steven · Tennis legend

Looking at the rankings, there does seem to be some system to them this year:

Main draws - everyone in the top 250 (women) or top 300 (men) who is not already a DA

Qualifying - everyone in the top 400 (both) except Bloomers who is not in the main draw and is not injured (Lisa) or retired (Cav), plus the three standout juniors on the men's side

That seems reasonable enough (I'd give some players below the two Dans in the rankings a lot more chance of beating a clay courter ranked around 100, but I can see why it would have been tough for the LTA to take that pragmatic a course) except that it seems a bit unfair to Bloomers, who is the only un-injured/un-retired Brit in the top 400 to have missed out despite:

- having gained far more points on grass last year than any Brit other than Muzza
- having come through that all-GB section in Nottingham that contained two Brits who have got QWCs
- being ranked above 5 players who have got QWCs
- having won a main draw match at Wimbledon before (not so important, since it's so draw-dependent, but still a factor)

Admittedly, his points gained since that Newport run have been far lower than those gained by any of those ranked around him, but still, he's one of the few Brits you could imagine actually coming through qualifying if he had a decent draw.

-- Edited by steven on Tuesday 7th of June 2011 10:48:42 AM

IamAlex · Social player

steven wrote:
Looking at the rankings, there does seem to be some system to them this year:

Main draws - everyone in the top 250 (women) or top 300 (men) who is not already a DA

Qualifying - everyone in the top 400 (both) except Bloomers who is not in the main draw and is not injured (Lisa) or retired (Cav), plus the three standout juniors on the men's side

That seems reasonable enough (I'd give some players below the two Dans in the rankings a lot more chance of beating a clay courter ranked around 100, but I can see why it would have been tough for the LTA to take that pragmatic a course) except that it seems a bit unfair to Bloomers, who is the only un-injured/un-retired Brit in the top 400 to have missed out despite:

- having gained far more points on grass last year than any Brit other than Muzza
- having come through that all-GB section in Nottingham that contained two Brits who have got QWCs
- being ranked above 5 players who have got QWCs
- having won a main draw match at Wimbledon before (not so important, since it's so draw-dependent, but still a factor)

Admittedly, his points gained since that Newport run have been far lower than those gained by any of those ranked around him, but still, he's one of the few Brits you could imagine actually coming through qualifying if he had a decent draw.

-- Edited by steven on Tuesday 7th of June 2011 10:48:42 AM

He obviously deserves a QWC before any of those juniors, why on earth would the lta think they have a bigger chance of coming through qualies?

Spectator · All-time great

A bit unfair seems an understatement - unless the assumption was that he would win the playoffs. And even then.

indiana · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
but I can see why it would have been tough for the LTA to take that pragmatic a course

Yep, always tough for the LTA to do the right thing when they have to concern themselves with how it will look / how it will make them look.

To be fair overall, the WCs are generally pretty reasonable ( I don't know whether they are trying to say Cox and Evans are the exception of young players in form or as you say have effectively just changed the 250 to 300 ). George Morgan maybe a bit lucky, don't know if ( Golding / Morgan / Broady ) come as a boxed deal smile I do think Bloomers and Eaton are rather unlucky and surely would have more chance of doing something in qualifying than not just Morgan.

The women kind of picked themselves ( with as I'd said just Sam Murray maybe making a late shout ) given the 3 more obvious picks weren't really shouting themselves.

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 7th of June 2011 11:21:55 AM

indiana · Tennis legend

If Blooomers is going to compete in the QWC play-offs. I am sure that will delight the other contendors in his half.

I remember last year when they stuck Evo in there, a few players probably felt like packing their bags then !

Count Zero · Tennis legend

then they are very lucky Boggo isn't in there :)

when is the draw for the play off made?

indiana · Tennis legend

I note Rice / Thornley, combined WR 546 ( 280 + 266 ) have not got a doubles WC ( as yet ? ).

On whatever basis Cox and Evans have got their singles WCs, ( WR 300 or still pretty young ) this can surely be extended to these 2, I'd say more so, given how fast they have been improving their ranking and earning the huge bulk of their ranking points this year.

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 7th of June 2011 11:31:44 AM

steven · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
If Blooomers is going to compete in the QWC play-offs. I am sure that will delight the other contendors in his half.

LOL I just tweeted something to that effect before seeing this. Unless of course he's injured after the long match yesterday and asked not to be put forward for a QWC, but that sounds highly unlikely.

According to the US site that sent me along to the Wimbledon spring press conference, the press release says 2 of the remaining 5 women's QWCs are reserved for players from the playoffs and all 3 of the remaining men's QWCs are reserved for players from the playoffs. Whether that will actually prove to be the case or not remains to be seen.

Oh .. Muzz has just weighed in with (to OEM) "I thought it was 250 cut off for wild cards or has that changed? Conor niland deserves one great attitude"

Shhh · Challenger level

I am both pleased and relieved to see the two Dan's get WC's.

I wouldn't fault his effort or attitude but Dan Cox's is outside the 250 and has earned virtually all his points at futures level, if he falls without a decent fight (and he admitted to being a little overawed at Queens yesterday) it'd seem an incorrect choice. I hope like hell he performs at his best.

Dan Evans has picked up points this year but also had a couple of shockers. I have no idea if injured or whatever but many have critisized his attitude at times, this makes it seem an odder choice. Like the other Dan, I worry if the performance isn't there it'll be even harder for others to get rewarded in future years.

On the other side of the coin, if they do well, then maybe these rules will be relaxed a little more often (please God!)

Richard not getting one in either main draw or qualies seems completley out of order on the face of it (he may have told them he wanted Eastbourne?????) Not only has he won here before, he made an ATP semi last year and since then has spent much of the time fighting a back injury. Without knowing whats behind it, I think this is disgraceful if simply overlooked.