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Count Zero


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From what i understand Boggo got 'moonballed' to death in a 3 1/2 hr match, probably why he had nothing in the tank for doubles after that.

I remember Alex always struggled vs Moonballers in the past, i guess playing hardcourt challengers you don't come up against it, but on these clay futures it's pretty certain he will face this tactic a lot.

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I hate moonballers for a reason ... maybe this place really suits them and that's why all of the seeds have already bitten the (devil) dust.

He needs to learn to handle them though.

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yeah at the end of the day it's generally all about winning the match (not always) and as we often see in football sometimes you know you can't win playing the 'right' way as the other guy/team are better so you alter your tactics as necessary.

However for Boggo this trip wasn't about just winning matches, he could have played the UK indoor futures if he'd wished, so even if he doesn't win as many as he hoped over the next few weeks as long as he learns from it then it should be worth it.

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I was tempted to say that the thing is Boggo could do with being places that he will win more points.

If there is much more to it in the USA trip re training etc and learning from these matches then that would appear to me to indicate that he still sees himself very much still involved for the longhaul.

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Smethurst won his Quarterfinal, unsure of score.

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I dont really except the excuse of Alex losing to a moonballer. At this level and with his experience of very close to top 100, he should be able to beat these guys on whatever surface i think.

At pro level surely you have to have certain tactics against players like this and win these types of matches. Im not one to teach a pro but surely from having watched Boggo, he is easily good enough to be taking the ball earlier and coming into the net to rush these types of players???

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I'd say it's not so easy, Spud.  It's not so much an excuse as an explanation. Clay and such tactics being employed is something Boggo needs to learn to deal with better especially if he intends playing more on such surfaces. But it is a learning process and many generally very good players have never really found the full solutions.

Most players are naturally much more comfortable and can cope easier on certain surfaces.  Chris Eaton ?

And as I say there are much better players than him ( and indeed Boggo ) that have never really got to grips with playing on clay courts.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 14th of January 2011 07:54:59 PM

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The Magician Santoro wrote:

Smethurst won his Quarterfinal, unsure of score.


QF:  Dan Smethurst WR 497 defeated (Q) Phillip Simmonds (USA) WR 570 by 2 & 2 biggrin

SF:  Luka Gregorc (SLO) WR 464* vs Dan Smethurst WR 497

*  Gregorc defeated Odesnik in his QF by 6-2 6-7(5) 6-4. wink

 



-- Edited by Stircrazy on Friday 14th of January 2011 10:16:33 PM

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Good day for young Dan:

SF:  (WC) Jordan Cox & Christian Harrison UNR lost to Dan Smethurst & Alex Ward WR 1989 by 4-6 6-2 [5-10] smile

Final:  Dan Smethurst & Alex Ward WR 1989 vs (2) Roman Borvanov & Dennis Zivkovic (MDA/USA) WR 847  pray.gif


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SF:  Luka Gregorc (SLO) WR 464 defeated Dan Smethurst WR 497 2 & 2  cry


-- Edited by Stircrazy on Sunday 16th of January 2011 12:03:28 AM

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Dan and Alex lost the doubles final 4&4.

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And in the Final, Gregorc will play a lucky loser ... Sajous, the Haitian moonballer who beat Boggo in R2, and who also managed to get thrashed by a 17-y-o in qualifying for next week's event today!

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Why didn't he get an SE?

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SMC1809 wrote:

Why didn't he get an SE?

No idea! confuse

 



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maybe because the events are about 15 mins apart? would that have a bearing on it?

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