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RE: 2010 Toronto Masters 'Battle of the Boards' pick 'em contest


2010 TORONTO MASTERS BOTB - DAY 3 'SYNDICATED' REPORT

The madness continued in Toronto, with 6 of Wednesday's 13 matches being won by players picked by less than 8% of us!

Youzhny managed to lose to 1% pick Dolgopolov despite winning the 1st set 6-1, but he was pushed hard for the 'muppet of the day' award by 99% pick Querrey, whose loss to Anderson was foreseen only by ptmcmahon (TA), not to mention 85% pick Almagro (who lost to 13% pick Llodra) and 71% pick Verdasco, whose loss to Chardy from a set up was predicted by just Ryzim (DF) & Puschkin (RG) and led some to question whether they had swapped passports after crossing at the end of the 1st set ...

The results that produced the most wholesale movement up and down the table though were 58% pick Numpty Nalby hurting Ferrer pickers even more by winning another round and 55% pick le Monf seeing off damage limitation pick de Bakker.

Finally, what can you say about PHM, who buckled under the hopes of those who had picked Duckboy to go deep and lost from a set up against 2% pick Lu, who has now shot down a real Duck and a fake one in the last two mandatory tournaments!

Detailed results can be found at http://www.freewebs.com/britishtennis/competitions.html and they are being updated regularly each day, with 'headlines' and the odd 'quote of the day' appearing on http://twitter.com/botb1 as well.

TEAMS

Given that this tournament has seen virtually unprecedented levels of mass muppetry, it may not come as a surprise to learn that despite their player's early demise, RichardGasquet.net, up 1 to 1st, regained the lead from AM.com, down 1 to 2nd, and the R2 winners GBTG are a bunch of WTA specialists - they were also by far the fastest risers, up 8 from last to 5th!

The only other teams that climbed more than one place were BT.net, up 2 to 3rd, and JM.org, up 2 to 8th.

BBC 606, down 6 to 12th, were by far the biggest fallers of the day, with Rusedski.co.uk down 3 to 7th, the Feddies, down 2 to 10th, and world no. 1s TAT, back down 2 to last, also suffering multi-place drops.

INDIVIDUALS

The madness of Toronto 2010 has resulted in a top three made up by a WTA specialist sandwiched between two former lanternes rouges, with the mum of one of the organisers following close behind!

Pabbers (AM) finished last in Rome and in the bottom 10% at both RG and Wimbledon, but had started off Toronto ok and then gradually climbed the table during Wednesday until Lu's win saw her complete a 79-place rise to nick 1st place right at the end of the day. She got 11/16 correct in R2, managing to predict the wins for 7% picks Kohli & Dolgo, 2% pick Lu and 13% pick Llodra - a 78000 to 1 quadruple (taking these matches in isolation), had the odds reflected the pick %s!

Just 1 point behind is Johnny (GB), up 1 to 2nd after leading for part of the day and just ahead on tiebreak from AllyB (JM), up 33 to 3rd and another lanterne rouge who equal top scored for R2 with 11/16.

Bethan's mum Anne (IN) led for part of the day but ended up down 2 in 4th, 2 points off the lead and just ahead on tiebreak from Canadian WxMan (IN), ChrisSpotmen (RG) and pugsley (BT), all up 7 to 5=, and the remaining two entrants who only got 5 wrong in R2, elisat (TA), up 79 to 8=, and RobH (BT), up 205 to 8=.

The top 10 are completed by Hawkeye (AM), Dark_Necrofear (CC) and t_torres (VB), all down 7 to 10=, though it's not often you get to hang onto a place in the top 10 after getting less than half the matches played in a day correct!

ON THE RISE

Only two of the four entrants who got 11/16 in R2 managed to get 9/13 on Wednesday having missed out on a 3/3 in the R2 matches played on Tuesday. They were the new leader and RobH (BT), whose 205 place rise to 8= also made him by far the fastest riser of the day.

Only five other entrants managed three-figure rises - sparkey (GB), aedra1119 (TA), scruffybearmac (AM) & Pingponger (TA) all climbed 105 to 55= and jervisjames (MT) rose 115 to 125th, all with 7/13 correct.

DODGY DROPPERS

The lowest scorer of the day, with just 3/13 correct (Rafa, Muzza & Nole), was former world no. 2 Jose Javier/Buyaka86 (RF), who fell 98 to 258= as a result, but the 18 three-figure fallers came from among the almost 40 entrants who got 4/13, with patrick (TA), rondun (JM), Big Al (CC) & jaysee (AM), all down 130 to 166=, falling the most.

OUTLOOK

Somewhat surprisingly, around 100 of us have 7 quarter-finalists outstanding as we head into R3, but only salish (ML) in 17= still has all 8, having picked Kohli to emerge from the ill-fated Cilic and Duckboy/PHM section together with the top seeds in the other 7 R3 matches.

R3 OoP (Toronto times, add 4 for GMT, 5 for BST) and PICK %s

CC 1 at 11.00: (5) Sod 74% v Numpty Nalby 21%
GC 1 at 11.00: (7) Berdbrain 81% v Dolgo 1% (current leader Pabbers (AM) & Meags (TW))
GC 2 post-BvD: (6) Kolya 46% v Chardy 0% (Puschkin (RG))
CC 2 nb 13.00 : (3) Fed 98% v Llodra 0% (ragdoll (AM))
CC 3 post-FvL: (4) Muzza 96% v (15) le Monf 2% *
GC 3 nb 14.30: Kohli 2% v (Q) Lu 0% (current leader Pabbers (AM) *)
GC 4 nb 17.00: (2) Nole 97% v Hanescu 0% (nobody)
CC 4 nb 19.30: (1) Rafa 96% v (Q) Anderson 0% (nobody)

* in addition, just RobH (BT), sallydaisy (JM), quietplease (ML), salish (ML) & pingponger (TA) have gone for Kohli, while Marian (GR), R1 winner bendixp (IN), legorik27 (IN), ml7000 (IN), Puschkin (RG) & & --cj-- (TA) went for le Monf.


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I hate to say this, but I now need Berdbrain to take out Sashko.

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LadyTigress wrote:

I hate to say this, but I now need Berdbrain to take out Sashko.


... unlike Pabbers, whose faith on Lu and Dolgo may have gone a round too far, in which case she'll crash and burn today. If they do the business again though, she could soar into a huge lead!

 



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PHM has taken GEMness to new levels.  You know they're going to surprise and infuriate you, either by losing dismally when you had them to go deep (e.g Dammit) or completely unexpectedly doing well when you had them to go out (Chardy). What you don't expect is to be tearing your hair out as they throw the match from a set up when you never even picked them at all.

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steven wrote:

LadyTigress wrote:

I hate to say this, but I now need Berdbrain to take out Sashko.


... unlike Pabbers, whose faith on Lu and Dolgo may have gone a round too far, in which case she'll crash and burn today. If they do the business again though, she could soar into a huge lead!

 



Well... we'll see. I plan on tuning in to Sashko's match at 4pm later today and sitting on the edge of my seat for that one. It's not that I don't have confidence and faith in Sashko's abilities... I just don't feel like it's that "time" yet. We're still in the "on the way up" phase, we're not yet in the "break-through-into-quarters-and-beyond-everyone-suddenly-notices-who-I-am" phase. At least, I don't think so. Which is why I picked Berdych to knock him out here, hoping also that Berdy had retained some of his Wimbledon form to be able to do so.

This is a most odd feeling though. I distinctly want to be supporting Sashko in this match, not Berdy... and yet I need Berdy to win... so, does that mean I'll be wring my hands with worry if he starts muppeting it away?! I just don't know how to react if that scenario comes up! Whether I ought to be happy or annoyed or what! Oh, I'm so confused about this match up!!!

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Lady T, be happy for Dolgo if he does well and indeed wins.  You've watched him develop and now he is beginning to show folk what he can really do and this may be his time.

Yes, you may have picked Berdbrain, but ultimately this is only a game so doesn't really matter.

Sorry, just returned to reality, THIS IS PICK 'EM,  and I picked Berdbrain too, Go Tomas and put this overachieving wannabe in his place !   wink.gif

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Nosebleed time

Shame I've already lost 1 finalist.


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eblunt wrote:

PHM has taken GEMness to new levels.  You know they're going to surprise and infuriate you, either by losing dismally when you had them to go deep (e.g Dammit) or completely unexpectedly doing well when you had them to go out (Chardy). What you don't expect is to be tearing your hair out as they throw the match from a set up when you never even picked them at all.


That masterpiece is hereby awarded quote of the week, even though I had to split it over 3 tweets biggrin

 



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steven wrote:

 LadyTigress wrote:



I hate to say this, but I now need Berdbrain to take out Sashko.
... unlike Pabbers, whose faith on Lu and Dolgo may have gone a round too far, in which case she'll crash and burn today. If they do the business again though, she could soar into a huge lead!
Well... we'll see. I plan on tuning in to Sashko's match at 4pm later today and sitting on the edge of my seat for that one. It's not that I don't have confidence and faith in Sashko's abilities... I just don't feel like it's that "time" yet. We're still in the "on the way up" phase, we're not yet in the "break-through-into-quarters-and-beyond-everyone-suddenly-notices-who-I-am" phase. At least, I don't think so. Which is why I picked Berdych to knock him out here, hoping also that Berdy had retained some of his Wimbledon form to be able to do so.

This is a most odd feeling though. I distinctly want to be supporting Sashko in this match, not Berdy... and yet I need Berdy to win... so, does that mean I'll be wring my hands with worry if he starts muppeting it away?! I just don't know how to react if that scenario comes up! Whether I ought to be happy or annoyed or what! Oh, I'm so confused about this match up!!!
Not being an extreme Ukrainophile like yourself wink the closest analogy I can find is if Muzza played Rafa in the semis here. I've got Rafa to win Toronto (in a deluded attempt to make 'safe' picks to try to defend as many points as possible so that I have a realistic chance of regaining a place in the top 10 of the rankings after the USO - I did die a little as I made that pick), but if he plays Muzza in the semis, I'll want Andy to win 100%. (*)

Then again, in any other BOTB-related match these days, I find myself wanting the player I picked to win, even if I'd strongly prefer his opponent to win if no BOTB points depended on it.

(*) I do actually have Andy winning Toronto in the ATP BC, but I care so little about the ATP BC (apart from the fact that it gives you easier access to H2H data when you're picking) that it makes no difference to the above.

 



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eblunt wrote:

PHM has taken GEMness to new levels.  You know they're going to surprise and infuriate you, either by losing dismally when you had them to go deep (e.g Dammit) or completely unexpectedly doing well when you had them to go out (Chardy). What you don't expect is to be tearing your hair out as they throw the match from a set up when you never even picked them at all.


That masterpiece is hereby awarded quote of the week, even though I had to split it over 3 tweets biggrin

 


Yes, it is a classic  !    clap.gif     Hopefully, this award will be of some small consolation and in some ways represent all those folk that already had the cross to bear of pick'em predictions sheets showing them picking PHM to reach semis, final or win the thing !

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 12th of August 2010 02:30:31 PM

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steven wrote:

Not being an extreme Ukrainophile like yourself wink the closest analogy I can find is if Muzza played Rafa in the semis here. I've got Rafa to win Toronto (in a deluded attempt to make 'safe' picks to try to defend as many points as possible so that I have a realistic chance of regaining a place in the top 10 of the rankings after the USO - I did die a little as I made that pick), but if he plays Muzza in the semis, I'll want Andy to win 100%. (*)

Then again, in any other BOTB-related match these days, I find myself wanting the player I picked to win, even if I'd strongly prefer his opponent to win if no BOTB points depended on it.

(*) I do actually have Andy winning Toronto in the ATP BC, but I care so little about the ATP BC (apart from the fact that it gives you easier access to H2H data when you're picking) that it makes no difference to the above.



wink SHHHHH!

Well... sort of I guess. When Andy and Rafa come up against each other it's a different thing for me - I'm genuinely rooting for both, and thus truly happy whoever wins and conciliatory for whoever loses. It's not quite the same feeling as I've got confronting this upcoming match!

Of course, for me it has been a thrill to observe Sashko's progress. "Discovering" him breaking through on the Challengers circuit 18 months ago, realising that here is a major, young talent, watching all my intuition about his future potential coming true... It's a highly rewarding experience, and I love this aspect of my interest in tennis. It's a wonderful feeling. I do really hope he wins here. It takes me back to the good old days of 2008 - Andy's breakthrough year. The excitement as we watched Andy making his and our dreams for him really take off and go nova, the thrill of seeing it all realised, the hard work, the potential!!! The gripping matches, the overcoming of new challenges (first time defeated Djokovic, first time defeated Rafa, first Slam final)... Ahhhhh, those were the days, and I love times like this. awwawwaww

 

 



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You had Youzhny getting through, knight.



disbelief ouch

 



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Watching live. Berdych pulls out the first set 6-3. Fairly unremarkable stuff so far. Stands virtually empty, of course.

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LT - I think most people on this board will identify with the fun of spotting a good prospect at Futures or Challenger level and then following their rise up the rankings until everyone else starts to notice the player who has sprung from "nowhere". smile.gif

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LT - I think most people on this board will identify with the fun of spotting a good prospect at Futures or Challenger level and then following their rise up the rankings until everyone else starts to notice the player who has sprung from "nowhere". smile.gif




smile Indeed. Looks like we've got a fight back in this second set. 6-5 to Sashko and on serve. Break point for him too - this could well go to a third.

 

EDIT: Snatches it on the tiebreaker. We're into a third.



-- Edited by LadyTigress on Thursday 12th of August 2010 04:58:54 PM

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