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indiana


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The problem with Colin & Ross is the "going to be a pairing" bit,  i.e.  haven't up till now really had much chance of being a pair.  Unfortunately with Ross out at the moment they have hardly played competitively as a pair yet.  Hopefully they will become a good pair and that will then have more relevance for a future Davis Cup.  They are running out of weeks to gel as a pair and indeed for Ross to get in more matches.

Delgado and Marray are getting decent results and are clearly playing regularly together,  I just think the other doubles players have significantly more big stage experience, and the Delgado / Marray results are not so good to outweigh this.  So I would not personally be considering them.

Wardy gets in as a singles player simply by outside of Andy being the best British player over recent times.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 7th of February 2011 08:42:45 PM

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Ward, Cox, Flemski.

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Ward, Baker( because he played well last time and there is noone and I mean noone else to consider at the moment), Doubles no idea but probably 2 from Fleming, Skupski, Hutchins ( again Flemski won as a pairing last time out so possibly they are just favourites ).

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Throwing a hypothetical out there: if Boggo were to say he wanted to play, but as we see his ranking will almost certainly have dropped significantly, putting him behind both Cox & Milton and Bloomers, do you think he should be picked ahead of these guys?

Do you think Boggo, turning 27 this year, could have a future in the DC, or would it be better to focus on the younger generation?

kinda a bit like the England football team, you've got Jack Wilshere, at 19 displaying a host of talent and future potential, but Capello won't play him ahead of Lampard/Gerrard, who have the experience, although failed to live up to expectation on the International stage, and instead play Wilshere outside of his best position.

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On paper this tie should be a 5-0 victory, 4-1 at worst. We are playing a team that only has one player in the top 1000, Malek Jaziri (WR 349). That player is really a clay court specialist and we are hosting the tie on an indoor hard court. Therefore, I would probably have a chat to Boggo that would go along the lines of, "we don't really need you for this tie mate so go away and build up that ranking again, get some matches in and then we will talk later." In other words, see how this year pans out and then possibly use him in a tougher tie later in the year. I would like to see him play DC again as I still believe that Boggo at his best is better than any of the non-Andy Brits!

As far as this tie goes I think I would be tempted to play James Ward as the number 1 singles player, use Jamie Murray as the doubles specialist (in my opinion we don't really need a doubles team as Tunisia don't have any doubles players ranked inside the top 750) and then select two from Cox/Milton/Baker to complete the line up depending on who plays best over the next few weeks. Right now my choice would be Cox and Baker.

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At this precise moment ( more particularly because he hasn't been playing much and there seem fitness doubts rather than his upcoming ranking drop to GB no 6 ) I wouldn't pick Boggo.

If you'ed asked that question just about any other time in the last 3 or 4 years I would have said yes.

Excluding only Andy, I would still say singles should be Ward and Baker or Cox.

Re age issues, I would certainly not exclude on age to just concentrate on the younger generation.  But I am much more for playing for the now and just basically play your best available team.

The Davis Cup is really mainly a team of individuals so even less reason comparative to football to be trying to mould a younger team.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 14th of February 2011 08:47:59 PM

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Can Jamie M and Flembo play together? Flembo gives us a more all rounded approach as he can cover for he singles as well.

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Count Zero wrote:

Can Jamie M and Flembo play together? Flembo gives us a more all rounded approach as he can cover for he singles as well.



I don't see why not, and agree about Colin.

My initial thoughts from a week ago really remain as :

Ward, Baker or Cox, Fleming, Skupski or J Murray

( athough Baker and Cox have since played as if they don't want the gig ! )



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 14th of February 2011 04:10:40 PM

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There's this young doubles pairing moving up through the rankings. 2 brothers... could we use them for the doubles, and I believe one of them plays singles as well ;)

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Didn't Jamie M and Colin Fleming used to be a pairing in the dim distant past? Before Colin took time out for his University work?

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Madeline wrote:

Didn't Jamie M and Colin Fleming used to be a pairing in the dim distant past? Before Colin took time out for his University work?


Yes they did.

And what about Josh Milton for singles????

 



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Shhh wrote:

 

 

And what about Josh Milton for singles????

 


I think maybe folk have been like myself looking at Dan Cox and Josh as having had a similar pick up since half way through last year and given the edge between these two to Dan in being higher ranked and having won more titles.

Interesting ( well to me  wink ), I have just looked through their activity since the midpoint  of last year and Josh actually has more wins ( and a better % record ) over top 300, 400 and 500 players though worse against players outside the top 500.

Since midway through last year :
Dan :   Top 500 -  won 6, lost 10    Outside top 500 -  won 37, lost 4
Josh :  Top 500 -  won 12, lost 7    Outside top 500 -  won 22, lost 6

In that time in their 3 personal meetings, Josh is 2 - 1 up

Jamie Baker has been generally playing a different level of player, competing mainly in Challengers and as I have said before having only lost to 2 players outside the top 400 in the last year I do feel he is distinctly underranked, but has suffered for not stringing 2 wins together.

Again, looking since the midpoint of last year : 
Jamie :  Top 500 - won 9, lost 14  ( but that includes 3 top 200 wins and Dan and Josh won none over such a high ranked player in this period and all but one of these matches were actually against top 400 players )   Outside top 500 - won 12, lost 2 ( the second just last week, the other to Amer Delic when he was unranked after a while out )

I think it would be very interesting to know their current Akhenaten rankings ( i..e rankings based on opponents that they have won and lost to ) of Jamie, Dan and Josh.  Jamie I am sure would be ranked higher than he is in the official rankings, Dan very likely lower and Josh maybe more around where he actually is in the official rankings.



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 14th of February 2011 10:46:08 PM

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sticking my neck out

James Ward deffo

Dan Cox? is he going to be yet another we try? saw him play live a couple of years ago then he was quite short but what a whopping forhand would like to see how he has developed since

Josh Milton didn't strike me as anything special two years ago (yep I know long time ago)

Jamie Baker for me hasn't done enough in the last six months to justify a place

Evo not mentally strong enough we destroyed him against the poles Sept 09

running out of options disbeliefdisbelief

what about giving George Morgan a feel for the atmosphere much the way we did with Alex Ward last summer

Doubles

Jamie M tweeted (last week or the week before) stateside for 7 weeks so can't see that happening as much as I would love to see it

Colin Fleming deffo torn between partnering him with Ross or Ken. Ross still not right after the injury, Ken playing some good tennis

whatever he is thinking right now he has to name a team on Tuesday




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Looking at current form after Andy.

YTD points:

22- Smethurst
20- Eaton
19- Boggo
18- Milton
15- Ward
12- Cox

Very poor start it seems from lads so far. Smethers will be getting another 6 points at least this week

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Baker just because he has the experience and wouldn't be overawed by the occasion.

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