Week 18 - ITF ($10K) - Edinburgh, GBR Clay

SMC1809 · All-time great

RE: Week 18 - ITF ($10K) - Edinburgh, GBR Clay

indiana · Tennis legend

philwrig wrote:

SMC1809 wrote:

Lisa beat Fran in 2 sets last week. Surely, she has just as many cylinders this week.

Granted, better than last week. But I still think Lisa is nowhere near her best level yet. She shouldn't really be dropping a set against Fran if firing on all cylinders.

Sorry, that's getting a bit cyclical for me.

First of all you partly give Fran less credit by saying Lisa is not firing on all cylinders and then use the fact that she loses a set to Fran as evidence of this biggrin

Lisa is indeed maybe not right back to her best but is possibly not that far off. Difficult to really know, even last year we just saw two or three sudden unexpected events from her. Anyway, I do think Fran has has a really good couple of weeks, moving on to a new level and to me that is a pretty impressive score this week vs Lisa.

philwrig · Hall of fame

For me Lisa was playing top 250 tennis at her best last year granted it was only for a short period of time and maybe her current playing level is going to be her long term average.

My opinion and clearly no one agrees with me is that Lisa is only playing to a top 500 level at the moment. I wasn't trying to downplay Fran's achievements because clearly she has had a great couple of weeks. I was just trying to give my perspective of where Lisa's game is at the moment.

indiana · Tennis legend

I agree with you that Lisa is probably only playing top 500 level at the moment smile

Not sure I or anyone else suggested otherwise, just still thought it another strong performance by Fran, indeed a further step-up.

Re Lisa, what I don't know is what her best reasonable long term level is. Yes, she had a few decent wins last year ( although only one against a top 250 player ) and some reasonable performances in defeat.

Indeed, maybe was playing 250 level at her best. I'd reckon there are more than 500 current players that play 250 level at their best, but by definition most of these are not truly WR top 250 players. ( or even in many cases ever likely to become WR 250 players )

I think she is potentially a very good player and was pleased to see her relative breakthrough last year, but she needs now to build and consolidate.

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 6th of May 2010 09:22:46 PM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Doubles results (GBR unless otherwise indicated):

R1: (1) Mandy Elliott & Jos Rae WR 601 vs bye
R1: Jess Ren & Liz Thomas UNR defeated Eleanor Dean & Nicola George by 5 & 1
R1: (4) Jessica Cohen & Diana Marcinkevica (FRA/LAT) WR 1580 defeated Jennifer Allan & Hope Johnson UNR by 4 & 2
R1: Patricia Chirea & Bianca Koch (ROU/GER) UNR lost to Daneika Borthwick & Joanna Henderson UNR by 3 & 3
R1: Emily Madill (IRL) & Morven McCulloch UNR lost to Mhairi Brown & Sam Vickers UNR by 0 & 5
R1: Manisha Foster & Fran Stephenson UNR lost to Anna Fitzpatrick & Jen Ren UNR by 6-7(3) 2-6
R1: bye vs (2) Timea Babos & Tara Moore WR 1055

Quarter-finals:

(1) Mandy Elliott & Jos Rae WR 601 defeated Jess Ren & Liz Thomas UNR by 6-7(5) 6-1 [10-4]
(4) Jessica Cohen & Diana Marcinkevica (FRA/LAT) WR 1580 defeated Daneika Borthwick & Joanna Henderson UNR by 3 & 4
Mhairi Brown & Sam Vickers UNR defeated (3) Jana Jandova & Monika Tumova ((CZE/CZE) WR 1326 by 5-7 6-2 [10-5] biggrin

Anna Fitzpatrick & Jen Ren UNR defeated (2) Timea Babos & Tara Moore WR 1055 by 0-3 retired biggrin

Semi-finals:

(1) Mandy Elliott & Jos Rae WR 601 vs (4) Jessica Cohen & Diana Marcinkevica (FRA/LAT) WR 1580
Mhairi Brown & Sam Vickers UNR vs Anna Fitzpatrick & Jen Ren UNR

SMC1809 · All-time great

...Timea Babos & Tara Moore WR 1055 by 0-3 retired

I wonder which one had the problem. Both are in the QFs.

indiana · Tennis legend

Hasn't Babos had some injury problems lately so more likely her ?

Better be her or Tara will have even more reason to be on the lookout for SC after that big grin

SMC1809 · All-time great

Lisa lost 6-3 6-4. cry

philwrig · Hall of fame

Disappointing from Lisa. Don't see her getting recommendation for Wimby QWC now.

SMC1809 · All-time great

QF: Timea Babos (Hun) beat Carolina Pillot (Ita) 6-1 6-3
QF: Tara Moore (Gbr) beat Bianci Koch (Ger) 4-6 7-6 (5) 7-5 smile

QF: Jana Jandova (Cze) beat Anna Fitzpatrick (Gbr) 4-0 ret cry

QF: Alize Lim (Fra) beat Lisa Whybourn (Gbr) 6-3 6-4 cry

philwrig · Hall of fame

A mystery why Babos/Tara retired in doubles.
One in semi not great return from a decent entry this week.

A pretty dreadful week in general for the girls this week.

Peter too · Tennis legend

SF: MOORE, Tara (GBR) 8 593 v LIM, Alize (FRA) 5 523

The Knight · Challenger qualifying

oh i hope Anna is ok, she's had such dreadful injury problems

good stuff for Tara, let's hope the semis are not her LIMit

jb288 · Satellite level

Nooo, poor Fitzy :( Life is not fair. Well done to Tara!

Josh · Challenger level

One final and one quarters is surely not too bad of a return for Lisa, especially on clay.