its not ridiculous at all. It's their grand slam, they should of course give it to french girls.
If all the grand slams played in the same way that would be fine but they don't. Both the US and Aussie opens gave Laura a wild card when she was much lower ranked. The French play by their own rules and clearly don't consider overseas talent.
The grand slams do, only the Oz Open has a wider distribution, with agreements with france and the us and the asian wildcard, but for qualies its usually 8 locals.
For years wimbledon gave all 15 or even all 16 wildcards to Brits then everyone moaned.
Now we get less main draw ones, maybe 5 or 6 but still 7 or 8 for qualies.
Us Open gives practically all its wildcards to Us players.
The only difference is Wimby gives foreigners main draw wildcards off their own back, not as the result of an agreement.
If someone did the stats u'd see they r all largely comparable other than the odd year where there's an extreme one way or another.
-- Edited by PaulM on Thursday 13th of May 2010 08:50:44 PM
Last year Wimbledon gave 11 out of 16 to Brits compared to 14 out of 16 by the French and as you say the five given to foreigners were not part of any prearrangement. We will see what happens at Wimbledon this year but I doubt there will be more than 11. Clearly we need to adopt the same policy as the other grand slams and say no wild cards to foreigners.
Last year Wimbledon gave 11 out of 16 to Brits compared to 14 out of 16 by the French and as you say the five given to foreigners were not part of any prearrangement. We will see what happens at Wimbledon this year but I doubt there will be more than 11. Clearly we need to adopt the same policy as the other grand slams and say no wild cards to foreigners.
yes, i too, would love that. unless there was a clear case for a injured player who's slipped down the ranks.
In my view Wimbledon should always be open and prepared to give WCs to deserving cases around the world.
I am sure we can alll think of great players that have deserved WCs to Grand Slams in particular circumstances, famously Ivanisevic to Wimbledon and Henin and Clijsters more recently ( not sure they both did get WCs but the principle of such comebacks is there ). Also really up and coming players who are worth giving WCs to, such as Laura has had elsewhere.
If one or more other Grand Slams are being seen as "ridiculous" in their WC policy, it is no reason that Wimbledon should follow suit.
I think 4 or 5 places to deserving foreign players is a good idea and to my mind only enhances Wimbledon's reputation.
Anyway, there is no great conflict at the moment in my mind since there is not the great strength in depth that by still giving the majority to Brits we would be really shutting out many deserving cases.
-- Edited by indiana on Friday 14th of May 2010 11:50:00 PM
^Yep, bottom line is we (nor Australia for that case) just don't have as much depth as many players worth giving QWCs to. I'm sure if we had as many deserving players as France we wouldn't waste WCs on other countries. Laura only got the Australian WC because she made the final of the Juniors and Pervak was already ranked high enough to get into the qualifying draw. One could say that the US gave a WC to a Brit in return for the WC Wimbledon gave to Glatch last year.
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As it stands Anna is 23 points behind 250th place.
If Anna qualifies and reaches the QF of Nottingham she will be a point ahead as it stands. A SF would definately see her there.
As it stands Naomi is 36 points behind 250th place.
Combinations that will get her there R1 Korea - Final Nottingham (SF will see her 3 points behind) or qualifying and reaching SF R2 Korea - SF Nottingham QF Korea - SF Nottingham (qualifying and reaching R2 puts her 2 points behind) SF Korea - QF Nottingham (R2 will see her 2 points behind) or qualifying and reaching R2 Final Korea - QR3 Nottingham (QR1 will see her 2 points behind, QR2 or R1 one point behind Win Korea or Nottingham and she is there
Johanna Konta is 21 points away now from 250 place.
If Johanna reaches the SF in Carson she is there, a QF she would be 3 points behind.
That's probably not the most articulate post ever, but hopefully you get the gist.
Apologies for off-topic, but am trying to sort out somewhere to stay for Nottingham, and want to see maybe the last day of womens qualies and the first couple of days of womens MD - anyone know whether that'd be Sun, Mon, Tue or Mon, Tue, Wed?? Not really interested in the mens, but want to see as many Brits as poss!
Apologies for off-topic, but am trying to sort out somewhere to stay for Nottingham, and want to see maybe the last day of womens qualies and the first couple of days of womens MD - anyone know whether that'd be Sun, Mon, Tue or Mon, Tue, Wed?? Not really interested in the mens, but want to see as many Brits as poss!
Thanks a lot :)
According to the ITF factsheet for the tournament the women's qualies are scheduled for Saturday and Sunday, with the main draw starting on Monday (the first round will be split over Monday and Tuesday I assume)
Judging from Heather's tweets, she has graduated and gone to her high school prom. Now that a couple of life's rights of passages are out of the way, she can concentrate on tennis full time.