Miami Doubles
1 NESTOR, Daniel/ZIMONJIC, Nenad 2
2 BRYAN, Bob/BRYAN, Mike 6
3 BHUPATHI, Mahesh/MIRNYI, Max 19
4 KUBOT, Lukasz/MARACH, Oliver 26
5 FISH, Mardy/KNOWLES, Mark 30
6 CERMAK, Frantisek/MERTINAK, Michal 33
7 ASPELIN, Simon/HANLEY, Paul 35
8 FYRSTENBERG, Mariusz/MATKOWSKI, Marcin 37
9 ISNER, John/QUERREY, Sam 42
10 KAS, Christopher/NORMAN, Dick 45
11 LOPEZ, Feliciano/VERDASCO, Fernando 46
12 CUEVAS, Pablo/GONZALEZ, Fernando 49
13 KNOWLE, Julian/KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp 55
14 LLODRA, Michael/RAM, Andy 56
15 HUSS, Stephen/MOODIE, Wesley 56
16 ALMAGRO, Nicolas/ROBREDO, Tommy 61
17 MELO, Marcelo/SOARES, Bruno 64
18 BUTORAC, Eric/RAM, Rajeev 65
19 BECKER, Benjamin/KOHLMANN, Michael 73
20 BRUNSTROM, Johan/ROJER, Jean-Julien 73
21 HUTCHINS, Ross/KERR, Jordan 74
22 DAMM, Martin/POLASEK, Filip 75
23 (OS)
24 (OS)
25 (OS)
26 (OS)
27 (OS)
28 (OS)
29 (OS)
30 (OS)
31 (WC)
32 (WC)

Alternates
1 MELZER, Jurgen/PETZSCHNER, Philipp 76
2 KARLOVIC, Ivo/VEMIC, Dusan 77
3 CLEMENT, Arnaud/LINDSTEDT, Robert 87
4 LEVINSKY, Jaroslav/TECAU, Horia 87
5 ANCIC, Mario/LJUBICIC, Ivan 91
6 ANDREEV, Igor/KOROLEV, Evgeny 95
7 FLEMING, Colin/SKUPSKI, Ken 105
8 MAYER, Florian/WASSEN, Rogier 115
9 MARX, Philipp/ZELENAY, Igor 123
10 BOPANNA, Rohan/QURESHI, Aisam-Ul-Haq 124

Colin  ( 52 )  +  Ken  ( 53 )  =  105

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 10th of March 2010 11:14:15 AM

Yes, always like that. 

I think it makes more sense in that quite often it isn't really a team anyway but two guys that have got together for the week, indeed sometimes it's adding a doubles ranking to a singles ranking.  Saves having  .5s too 

Yes, the best team in the world is shown as 2 if they are indivually joint no 1 as Nestor & Zimonjic are.  If they were 1 and 2  ( eg one had got more points with another partner ) then they would be shown as 3.

gjr wrote:

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Count Zero wrote:

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ah ok so effectively they are the 50th best team in the world, but in rankings that becomes 100

so the very best team in the world is always ranked 2

couldn't they average the ranking instead?

-- Edited by Count Zero on Wednesday 10th of March 2010 11:17:19 AM

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No its about half that. If all the players in the top 50 share teams there are only 25 teams. So they are possibly the 26th or 27th best team.

 

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Yes, good point.  Of course, teams get disbanded and new teams form so there will be some teams with players individually within and outwith the top 50.  But at that level, most of top teams will have both players within the top 50. 

Certainly will be within the top 30 in combined rankings of current regular teams.

Count Zero wrote:

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lol you guys are just confusing me now

they are the 26th best team in the world but ranked 100 :)

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OK, look at the top 4 doubles players in the world. They make up the top 2 teams.

So extrapolate that up to the top 50 and if they all are members of teams then there are only 25 teams. It does get complex due to singles players doing well like Mardy Fish. He has had possibly several partners and is not part of a dedicated team.

Count Zero wrote:

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lol you guys are just confusing me now

they are the 26th best team in the world but ranked 100 :)

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It gets worse than that. Hypothetically, the number one ranked player can play with the number 2, or number 3, or number 4...number 103 and still be ranked higher (better) than Flemski. Similarly, the number 2 ranked player can play with the number 3, number 4...number 102 and be ranked better than Flemski.

Obviously this can go on for a while. In fact, there are approx 2500 combinations that would produce a better team than Flemski, so in this hypothetical world they're approx the 2500 best team!

Pays not to think about it too much.

 

I have just gone through the names on the entry list and I see that whilst Flemski are actually 29th on that list, they are 19th of these that are using two doubles rankings. I know some folk find the use of singles rankings a bit controversial.

Ten of these above them have one player or both using his singles ranking or, in Ancic / Ljubicic's case, Ljubicic's singles ranking plus something prehistoric from Ancic  

There are quite a few top teams that don't appear on the entry list at all, so I'm still guessing that if everyone was here they'ed be in about mid to late 20s of these purely using doubles rankings.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 10th of March 2010 01:01:53 PM