Week 45 - Challenger ($50K) - Knoxville, USA

The Magician Santoro · Top national player

RE: Week 45 - Challenger ($50K) - Knoxville, USA

Drew · Nov 9, 2009

The Magician Santoro wrote:

Baker got Klassen, Bloomfield got Ramon Delgado

Where did that come from...the ATP draw sheet says Delgado got Sisling ?

mjd · Challenger qualifying

USTA site also shows that

This event/USTA make LTA look extremly good wink
I wonder what the sponsors think about that?

seagull · Hall of fame

I imagine Sijsling pulled out as he was in the final in Asia at the weekend

Drew · Nov 9, 2009

seagull wrote:

I imagine Sijsling pulled out as he was in the final in Asia at the weekend

But why would that affect the draw...surely the draw cannot be changed after it was made...so Sijsling is a no show...so a LL would go in his spot...no ?

alex03maccy · Grand Slam Champion

jamie plays 2nd and bloomers 4th on court 2 tomorrow.

Drew · Nov 9, 2009

Oh well no rest for the wicked....fingers crossed !

Akhenaten · Pro player

The OOP confirms the Bloomers/Delgado, Baker/Klaasen draw

Think they must have drawn the 4 qualifiers & the lucky loser equally.

McClune is the LL, and is in one of the original Qual spots.

Well done to both the B's for qualifying, these are winnable matches too.

Akhenaten · Pro player

Taylor Dent lays in store for the winner of Baker v Klaasen. hmm

indiana · Tennis legend

Drew wrote:

seagull wrote:

I imagine Sijsling pulled out as he was in the final in Asia at the weekend

But why would that affect the draw...surely the draw cannot be changed after it was made...so Sijsling is a no show...so a LL would go in his spot...no ?

What has happened here is that Sijsling appears to have pulled out before the qualifiers were assigned.

There are then effectively 5 gaps in the draw and they appear to have randomly assigned the 4 FQR winners and the LL ( McClune ) to the original 4 qualifier spots and what was Sijsling's place.

I wouldn't really say they've changed the draw, they've just added Sijsling's spot to those to be filled by folk coming from the qualifying draw.

I am not sure if this is standard practice where the a LL spot becomes open before the qualifiers are placed or even if there are hard and fast rules in this situation. Anyone know ? Whatever, doesn't actually seem unreasonable to me just as long as it isn't against procedure.

Clearly if Sijsling had withdrawn after the 4 FQR winners were assigned then the LL takes Sijsling's spot.

Edit ; Oops I'd skipped post where Akhenaten had already basically said that's what had happened. Well, I just expanded smile And as I said as long as procedurally OK, seems absolutely fine way to do it to me, much as folk may wish to find rivals to the LTA for alleged incompetence biggrin

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 9th of November 2009 11:26:11 PM

mjd · Challenger qualifying

ATP Rules-

E.Qualifying started or finished1) During Qualifying Competition.If a lucky loser position should become available during the qualifying competition, it shall be treated the same as the qualifying places for placement in the main draw. If a seeded player or team withdraws afterthe main draw has been made but prior to the release of the order of play for the first day of main draw, the vacancy created by the withdrawal of a seed shall befilled by the following method:a) 16/24 (Doubles)/32/48/64 96 and 128 Draw. The vacancy shall be filled by thenext highest positioned player or team in the main draw eligible to be seeded.The appropriate lucky loser shall fill the remaining vacancy.

mjd · Challenger qualifying

Jamie B should be on any time soon - Where was live-score found yesterday?

alex03maccy · Grand Slam Champion

bet365, but they are only doing centre court at the minute.

Drew · Nov 10, 2009

www.tennis.com/livescores/index.html

alex03maccy · Grand Slam Champion

according to MTF, baker 7-6