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I would actually be more heartened if Ward had been picked ahead of Fleming, as it means that they are confident that Murray will play the doubles rubber.

When I assess our chances against Poland's, the thing that stands out the most is Davis Cup experience. I said before the previous tie that apart from Henman, Rusedski and Murray no-one for GB has won a live singles rubber since 1997. It is like a cloud over British men's tennis and we can't move forward as a team until that statistic is erased. In fact someone will have to be making their Davis Cup singles debut in this tie.

Unlike us, Poland have that experience. In live singles rubbers, Janowicz has a 1-1 record (plus a dead rubber win over Vliegen), Przysiezny is 5-3 and in doubles rubbers Matkowski has a 12-5 record and Fyrstenburg has a 12-4 record and they have a 9-3 record as a team.

When you consider Ward and Evans haven't played a single Davis Cup rubber, Fleming is 0-1 in the one doubles rubber he has played and Hutchins is 0-3 and Murray is 1-4 in doubles rubbers, you have to say Poland are favourites.

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Looks like it's down to Evans v Prysiezny on Sunday then. Interesting stuff ...


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thats a very good point wolf. we will have to see how Evo copes in this situation. is it better that its home? sometimes you wonder if away might be better for a debut.

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It is a fair point that GB have no-one with much experience of winning DC matches in the squad other than Murray but I would still expect us to win this tie, especially as Murray is basically a given that he wins his two singles matches and thus we only need to find one match.

We have an outside chance in the doubles, Janowicz hasn't shown great form this year when not on the clay, while Evans if 300+ places ahead of Prysiezny and really shouldn't be losing against him.

Prysiezny was ranked in the top 200 but seems to be ranked outside of the top 600 on merit. He did miss a chunk of time at the start of 2008 but has been playing for 16 months since his return and is still ranked that low (and has beaten just 6 top 500 players this year) and hasn't played a match off clay since Febuary.

As long as the pressure of a live 5th rubber doesn't affect Evans, there is no reason why he should not beat Prysiezny and it would be a very poor result if he doesn't.



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wolf wrote:

I would actually be more heartened if Ward had been picked ahead of Fleming, as it means that they are confident that Murray will play the doubles rubber.

James Ward has glandular fever which ruled out any possibility of him being in the final four.

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that's not good. lets hope it doesn't ruin the rest of his year.

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Oh no, that's very sad. I hope it's not as bad as that sounds.

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Bad luck for James, especially soon after his breakthrough on the clay



-- Edited by The Knight on Thursday 17th of September 2009 03:13:19 PM

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If anyone is looking for a last minute ticket the am.commers have 2 spare spaces for each of the 3 days.

A BT member has just snapped up the 3rd spare place we had.
I'm leaving for Liverpool around 5am tomorrow morning so any PM's sent before then will be answered.

Apologies for the repeat 'advert' but it would be a shame if someone was looking for tickets and couldn't get in.
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Very sad to hear about James Ward; I was hoping to see him play again.
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We'll cheer for them all anyways....
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Disaster for Wardy. Perhaps explains some of his more recent struggles as well

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wolf wrote:

I would actually be more heartened if Ward had been picked ahead of Fleming, as it means that they are confident that Murray will play the doubles rubber.

When I assess our chances against Poland's, the thing that stands out the most is Davis Cup experience. I said before the previous tie that apart from Henman, Rusedski and Murray no-one for GB has won a live singles rubber since 1997. It is like a cloud over British men's tennis and we can't move forward as a team until that statistic is erased. In fact someone will have to be making their Davis Cup singles debut in this tie.

Unlike us, Poland have that experience. In live singles rubbers, Janowicz has a 1-1 record (plus a dead rubber win over Vliegen), Przysiezny is 5-3 and in doubles rubbers Matkowski has a 12-5 record and Fyrstenburg has a 12-4 record and they have a 9-3 record as a team.

When you consider Ward and Evans haven't played a single Davis Cup rubber, Fleming is 0-1 in the one doubles rubber he has played and Hutchins is 0-3 and Murray is 1-4 in doubles rubbers, you have to say Poland are favourites.


No you don't have to say Poland are favourites, because actually GB are favourites, in my book anyway  smile 

It is of course very disappointing that only Murray, Henman and Rusedski have won live rubbers since 1997.

I'm a statistician by training and quite like facts and figurs where really relevant.  But, whatever the litenany of other players defeats since them, the vast majoity fully to be expected on rankings, that experience of defeats should not burden Evans who has no experience of this.  And I don't see that that inexperience in itself should be such a burden to a fairly confident guy.

Murray should of course win both his ties, Evans shold beat Prysiezny, GB should win at least 3 - 2.

 



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I think we have more to fear from the Polish Federer than some realise

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anyone know if the tie will be shown on bbc website?

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Yes it will.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8257354.stm

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thanks. hope its a quite friday

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