Queens SF - Andy v Juan Carlos Ferrero

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Queens SF - Andy v Juan Carlos Ferrero

Ratty · County player

Yes, it's bizarre to think that Ferrero was once the "King of Clay" and No 1 in the world.

Either he never fully recovered from his injury, or everyone else has got better. I think the latter.

murrayman650 · ATP level

Warming up now

murrayman650 · ATP level

Ferrero to serve first

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murrayman650 · ATP level

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murrayman650 · ATP level

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-- Edited by murrayman650 on Saturday 13th of June 2009 12:43:25 PM

murrayman650 · ATP level

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murrayman650 · ATP level

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murrayman650 · ATP level

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indiana · Tennis legend

From what I saw of the match, a generally good clinical performance.

Ferrero certainly still no mug if you want to engage in a strong exchange from the back of the court and found his range more at start of second set, which brought some really good rallies.

Andy's first serve % bit down but given he didn't face a break point hardly a big issue here, and I guess actually gave him more rally practice after his second serve. Seemed to be able to find a good first serve when his service looked remotely like being threatened. Could probably do with some more serve and volley practice. OK, never going to be his natural game but good to have the option.

Re Ratty's earlier post it was interesting they said on TV that yes Ferrero had had quite a lot of problems re illness and stuff after he was no 1. But he now thinks he is playing as well as he was when he was number 1, but just the games has moved so far on, particularly physically.

My guess it is a bit of both. Certainly in some respecs the game has definitely moved on, but I think there may be an element of kidding himself.

-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 13th of June 2009 02:21:24 PM

angry1 · Lower Club Player

indiana wrote:

From what I saw of the match, a generally good clinical performance.

Ferrero certainly still no mug if you want to engage in a strong exchange from the back of the court and found his range more at start of second set, which brought some really good rallies.

Andy's first serve % bit down but given he didn't face a break point hardly a big issue here, and I guess actually gave him more rally practice after his second serve. Seemed to be able to find a good first serve when his service looked remotely like being threatened. Could probably do with some more serve and volley practice. OK, never going to be his natural game but good to have the option.

Re Ratty's earlier post it was interesting they said on TV that yes Ferrero had had quite a lot of problems re illness and stuff after he was no 1. But he now thinks he is playing as well as he was when he was number 1, but just the games has moved so far on, particularly physically.

My guess it is a bit of both. Certainly in some respecs the game has definitely moved on, but I think there may be an element of kidding himself.

-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 13th of June 2009 02:21:24 PM

What makes it strange is that it diminishes his own standing to say it.He surely can't think his current standard of play was the best in the world that recently.Ardent Federer haters use the term clown era to explain his success but that would be an even more extreme version.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Can we say Andy swatted the Mosquito? biggrin

I thought it was a very entertaining second set, with some lovely rallies. JCF's ranking really is so low because of injury problems, they said on the Beeb that he had only played 4 tournaments after last years Wimbledon until the year end, but he recently won a tournament in Casablanca (yeah, I know it's often referred to as Casachallenger) so is getting back in form. I think getting back to the top 50 is realistic but I would be surprised if he can get much higher, as he said, the game has moved on so much physically.

I've always liked him, though, and would like him to end his career on a relative high.