2010 Commonwealth Games

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

RE: 2010 Commonwealth Games

steven · Tennis legend

Time for an update, perhaps. The new Commonwealth top 25 and their ranking changes since the end of April are:

4 Muzza SCO =
22 Hewitt AUS up 31
66 Baggy CYP up 27
83 Luczak AUS up 128
109 Guccione AUS up 41

124 Devvarman IND up 23
125 Anderson RSA up 47
129 Ball AUS up 53
130 Dancevic CAN down 21
165 Matosevic AUS up 48

172 Polansky CAN up 57
185 Boggo ENG down 5
196 Ward ENG up 89
205 Klein AUS down 14
208 Brown JAM up 259

209 de Voest RSA down 28
230 Groth AUS up 25
239 Lindahl AUS up 82
242 Goodall ENG down 10
249 Amritraj IND down 71

266 Jones AUS up 141
274 van der Merwe RSA up 1
275 King-Turner NZL up 147
284 Klaasen RSA up 40
292 Tomic AUS up 86

DROPPED OUT of the COmmonwealth top 25 since the end of April:

425 Smeets AUS down 195
358 Sirianni AUS down 105
547 Qureshi PAK down 253
509 Ebelthite AUS down 202
309 Duclos CAN up 3
315 Ebden AUS down 145

Count Zero · Tennis legend

boggo dropped out of the top 10

. curse those Aussies filling up the spaces.

Mikeduke · County player

Count Zero wrote:

boggo dropped out of the top 10 . curse those Aussies filling up the spaces.

With Jamie on the team, we should be encouraging more of this!

steven · Tennis legend

I don't know if this applies to the other home nation teams as well, but while there will be 26 direct acceptances for CG singes and 13 for CG doubles based on the 2 Aug 2010 rankings with no more than 4 men and 4 women per country over all of the events combined, the Scottish selection criteria appear to be that you must also meet one or more of the following conditions:

a) ranked among the top 8 players eligible to compete in at least 4 separate weeks during the selection period (1 Jun 2009 - 2 Aug 2010) of which at least 2 weeks must be in the last 4 months of that period

OR b) a win against a top 8 Commonwealth player or an equivalent world-ranked player between 1 Jun 2009 - 2 Aug 2010

OR c) selection for the GB DC or Fed Cup teams

(section 12 of http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:nzmRp-2HrOYJ:www.cgcs.org.uk/Resource.aspx%3FID%3D1149+commonwealth+games+tennis+qualification&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk gives more precise details)

So based on the rankings above, that would mean the men having to be in the top 130 for singles (or, referring back to my May 2009 list for doubles, much higher for doubles) or (again for singles) to have beaten a player ranked 130 or higher between 1 Jun 2009 - 2 Aug 2010.

-- Edited by steven on Thursday 22nd of October 2009 08:02:45 AM

The Knight · Challenger qualifying

Milton for Wales...Watson for Guernsey

Count Zero · Tennis legend

Thanks Steven, who are the 4 Means tho?

so who currently would fit the criteria? (i guess it depends on how far back the take into account DC selection)

steven · Tennis legend

I assume they go back to 1 June this year as for the other criteria.

Mikeduke · County player

I emailed commonwealth England to find out, this is what they replied:

Thank you for your email about selection criteria for Tennis Players at the Commonwealth Games. I am writing to confirm that this is not set by this organisation, but by the appropriate National Governing Body of Sport, so for the case of Tennis it would be the Lawn Tennis Association.

Im not holding my breath of getting a quick answer from the LTA!!

Count Zero · Tennis legend

Mikeduke wrote:

Count Zero wrote:

boggo dropped out of the top 10 . curse those Aussies filling up the spaces.

With Jamie on the team, we should be encouraging more of this!

well if your Scottish maybe - but I'm for team England on this one!

Vandenburg · Futures level

I think your all missing a trick here!! ill let my secret indsider knowledge to you all

Kuwait has actually applied to join the commonwleath
if this happends

Mohammad Ghareeb ranked 451 whos style of play has been compared to the great mats Wilander would be a huge weapon in the draw meathinks.????

Mikeduke · County player

I should not have doubted the LTA, they responded very fast:

Thanks for your email. In terms of the criteria for the Commonwealth Games, selection is likely to be made on WTA and ATP ranking however Im not sure of the amount of places that will be available at the moment. The criteria Im sure will be made available much nearer the time but for the moment Im not too sure who will be selected for the 2010 Games.

It is probably worth to wait a little bit nearer the time when we can provide some further, more detailed information for you.

I think this is my biggest problem with the LTA, they just don't make things clear and easy for their players and for the fans. It's the same with the Davis Cup. I understand that they want a little bit of leeway to choose some of their players, but it just leaves them open to accusations of bias and elitism.

At the moment all Scottish players know what they need to do in order to qualify, where as a player like Alex has no clear idea of what is required to get there.

Count Zero · Tennis legend

maybe thata the point though. would it surprise you if the lta didnt want to take boggo? if they set a target he is probably the most likely to achieve it.

clayfan · Lower Club Player

Interesting speculation. I couldn't access the link but the Scottish selection criteria seem very restrictive. Top 8 or winning against a top 8 player will be impossible for most contenders. This leaves only 1 contender (AM) for singles and 2 for doubles at best. Jamie Baker would be struggling unless he gets a Davis Cup place.

I doubt Andy would even consider going. The security implications alone would make him a big name terrorist target. Likewise the other big name players on the list. Persuading the other eligible players to give up a weeks points gathering will be difficult as the Commonwealth Games do not have the Qudos of the Olympics. With all the other sports vying for places there might be no Scottish tennis participation if the few eligible players do not go.

England and Wales might be in a better position. England will have more players to choose from and more places available on their overall team. Perhaps the selection criteria will not be as harsh. Wales might too opt to reserve a place or two for tennis. Lets hope so or the tournament will be a damp squib!