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Where the Brits get their points


In response to the Steve Martens quote about ""There will be no more running around the world chasing points like before" ...

Count Zero wrote:
it could be interesting to see what % of world rankings points are made up from home nation events for the lower rankled players, say those outside the top 150.


It's not hard to do given that I've got the best 18s on a spreadsheet - and quite illuminating too! Before I publish the results, I've worked out each player in my sample's % points scored in each of the following parts of the world:

UK: UK
EU: other Europe
US: USA
AM: other Americas
AF: Africa
AP: Asia-Pacific

How would people order these in terms of average difficulty to score points from?





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easiest first:

AF
UK
AP
US
EU
AM <- dont really know where to put this.

btw i was thinking for all players, not just GB.


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AM is Canada, Central America and those events Jonny Marray played in Brazil, so generally weaker than the US events.

I'd put, again 'weakest' fields first with UK slightly easier for Brits because of the lack of travel:

RW (I've combined AP & AF into RW: Rest of the World because the Brits haven't been playing so many AF events in the last 12 months so there is very little data)
AM
UK
US
EU (though Eastern European Futures tend to be weaker than Western European ones - I can't split down too narrowly though, we need a few events in each category to make it meaningful)






-- Edited by steven at 16:25, 2009-03-09

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So, let's see if this works - these 18 players are the only Brits to have at least 9 scoring events in their totals (e.g. Jamie B is missing) and I have ordered them by rankings:

PLAYERUKEUUSAMRW
ANDY MURRAY8%38%33%6%15%
JOSH GOODALL35%8%2%25%30%
ALEX BOGDANOVIC12%25%9%40%13%
JAMES WARD13%55%2%10%19%
RICHARD BLOOMFIELD81%18%2%0%0%
ALEX SLABINSKY17%31%0%0%52%
CHRIS EATON74%4%0%0%22%
JONNY MARRAY1%75%7%16%0%
DAN EVANS91%9%0%0%0%
COLIN FLEMING81%18%0%0%1%
KEN SKUPSKI47%39%0%0%15%
MATT ILLINGWORTH57%43%0%0%0%
JOSH MILTON64%36%0%0%0%
SEAN THORNLEY28%44%0%28%0%
JAMES FEAVER6%63%0%6%25%
BURNHAM ARLIDGE66%34%0%0%0%
DAVID RICE37%52%0%0%11%
JONNY KINSELLA31%15%15%15%23%


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Most dependent on UK events:

91% DAN EVANS
81% COLIN FLEMING
81% RICHARD BLOOMFIELD
74% CHRIS EATON
66% BURNHAM ARLIDGE
64% JOSH MILTON
57% MATT ILLINGWORTH
47% KEN SKUPSKI
37% DAVID RICE
35% JOSH GOODALL
31% JONNY KINSELLA
28% SEAN THORNLEY
17% ALEX SLABINSKY
13% JAMES WARD
12% ALEX BOGDANOVIC
8% ANDY MURRAY
6% JAMES FEAVER
1% JONNY MARRAY

Most dependent on events in Africa & Asia-Pacific:

52% ALEX SLABINSKY
30% JOSH GOODALL
25% JAMES FEAVER
23% JONNY KINSELLA
22% CHRIS EATON
19% JAMES WARD
15% ANDY MURRAY
15% KEN SKUPSKI
13% ALEX BOGDANOVIC
11% DAVID RICE
1% COLIN FLEMING

Good at scoring points after inter-continental flights:

(i.e. points outside Europe)

63% ALEX BOGDANOVIC
57% JOSH GOODALL
54% ANDY MURRAY
54% JONNY KINSELLA
52% ALEX SLABINSKY
32% JAMES WARD
31% JAMES FEAVER
28% SEAN THORNLEY
24% JONNY MARRAY
22% CHRIS EATON
15% KEN SKUPSKI
11% DAVID RICE
2% RICHARD BLOOMFIELD
1% COLIN FLEMING

That's enough to get your teeth into for now wink


-- Edited by steven at 16:39, 2009-03-09

-- Edited by steven at 17:42, 2009-03-09

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thanks Statven wink.gif

Look a Kinsella's break down, a fairly even spread.

i think some of it can be skewed by one stand out result - Boggo's win in Canada and Eaton at Wimby.

is it telling that only 10% of Josh's point come from the 'toughest' arena, compared with over 30% for Boggo?

however as a whole not a great showing for our boys out in the US. of course in the past we know that both Baker and Boggo have picked up some good points there so maybe its a bit of swings and roundabouts.

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I know, even with the list limited to those with 9 or more counting events, one big score can really skew the stats and we shouldn't read too much into them. I still find it interesting how the splits vary though.

I noticed Kinsella's even split too - the group he's in always were pretty good at picking their tournaments, e.g. taking advantage of the Canadian events and not assuming all the weaker events were in Africa and Asia.

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Most dependent on events in Africa & Asia:
13% ALEX BOGDANOVIC

?!?!

When did Alex play in Africa or Asia? Has he magicked a made-up score into his ranking?

Edit: It might be Izmir, i think he might have made the quarters there. Turkey could be thought of as European though

-- Edited by The Knight at 17:19, 2009-03-09

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Alex did play and event in New Dehli didn't he, reaching the quarters? And i assume New Cali and Oz Open fall into that as well, i think think Staty changed that to be rest of the world?

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Count Zero wrote:

Alex did play and event in New Dehli didn't he, reaching the quarters?


oh yeh forgot new delhi has a ridiculous number of challengers, i only remembered the ones in August that Goodall played well in

 



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Interesting, but what is proven? With few exceptions (Boggo, Josh, Slabba) most points have been won in UK or Europe and certainly not "Chasing around the world"


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