In response to the Steve Martens quote about ""There will be no more running around the world chasing points like before" ...
Count Zero wrote:it could be interesting to see what % of world rankings points are made up from home nation events for the lower rankled players, say those outside the top 150. It's not hard to do given that I've got the best 18s on a spreadsheet - and quite illuminating too! Before I publish the results, I've worked out each player in my sample's % points scored in each of the following parts of the world:
UK: UK EU: other Europe US: USA AM: other Americas AF: Africa AP: Asia-Pacific
How would people order these in terms of average difficulty to score points from?
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AM is Canada, Central America and those events Jonny Marray played in Brazil, so generally weaker than the US events.
I'd put, again 'weakest' fields first with UK slightly easier for Brits because of the lack of travel:
RW (I've combined AP & AF into RW: Rest of the World because the Brits haven't been playing so many AF events in the last 12 months so there is very little data) AM UK US EU (though Eastern European Futures tend to be weaker than Western European ones - I can't split down too narrowly though, we need a few events in each category to make it meaningful)
-- Edited by steven at 16:25, 2009-03-09
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So, let's see if this works - these 18 players are the only Brits to have at least 9 scoring events in their totals (e.g. Jamie B is missing) and I have ordered them by rankings:
PLAYER
UK
EU
US
AM
RW
ANDY MURRAY
8%
38%
33%
6%
15%
JOSH GOODALL
35%
8%
2%
25%
30%
ALEX BOGDANOVIC
12%
25%
9%
40%
13%
JAMES WARD
13%
55%
2%
10%
19%
RICHARD BLOOMFIELD
81%
18%
2%
0%
0%
ALEX SLABINSKY
17%
31%
0%
0%
52%
CHRIS EATON
74%
4%
0%
0%
22%
JONNY MARRAY
1%
75%
7%
16%
0%
DAN EVANS
91%
9%
0%
0%
0%
COLIN FLEMING
81%
18%
0%
0%
1%
KEN SKUPSKI
47%
39%
0%
0%
15%
MATT ILLINGWORTH
57%
43%
0%
0%
0%
JOSH MILTON
64%
36%
0%
0%
0%
SEAN THORNLEY
28%
44%
0%
28%
0%
JAMES FEAVER
6%
63%
0%
6%
25%
BURNHAM ARLIDGE
66%
34%
0%
0%
0%
DAVID RICE
37%
52%
0%
0%
11%
JONNY KINSELLA
31%
15%
15%
15%
23%
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91% DAN EVANS 81% COLIN FLEMING 81% RICHARD BLOOMFIELD 74% CHRIS EATON 66% BURNHAM ARLIDGE 64% JOSH MILTON 57% MATT ILLINGWORTH 47% KEN SKUPSKI 37% DAVID RICE 35% JOSH GOODALL 31% JONNY KINSELLA 28% SEAN THORNLEY 17% ALEX SLABINSKY 13% JAMES WARD 12% ALEX BOGDANOVIC 8% ANDY MURRAY 6% JAMES FEAVER 1% JONNY MARRAY
Most dependent on events in Africa & Asia-Pacific:
52% ALEX SLABINSKY 30% JOSH GOODALL 25% JAMES FEAVER 23% JONNY KINSELLA 22% CHRIS EATON 19% JAMES WARD 15% ANDY MURRAY 15% KEN SKUPSKI 13% ALEX BOGDANOVIC 11% DAVID RICE 1% COLIN FLEMING
Good at scoring points after inter-continental flights:
(i.e. points outside Europe)
63% ALEX BOGDANOVIC 57% JOSH GOODALL 54% ANDY MURRAY 54% JONNY KINSELLA 52% ALEX SLABINSKY 32% JAMES WARD 31% JAMES FEAVER 28% SEAN THORNLEY 24% JONNY MARRAY 22% CHRIS EATON 15% KEN SKUPSKI 11% DAVID RICE 2% RICHARD BLOOMFIELD 1% COLIN FLEMING
That's enough to get your teeth into for now
-- Edited by steven at 16:39, 2009-03-09
-- Edited by steven at 17:42, 2009-03-09
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Look a Kinsella's break down, a fairly even spread.
i think some of it can be skewed by one stand out result - Boggo's win in Canada and Eaton at Wimby.
is it telling that only 10% of Josh's point come from the 'toughest' arena, compared with over 30% for Boggo?
however as a whole not a great showing for our boys out in the US. of course in the past we know that both Baker and Boggo have picked up some good points there so maybe its a bit of swings and roundabouts.
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I know, even with the list limited to those with 9 or more counting events, one big score can really skew the stats and we shouldn't read too much into them. I still find it interesting how the splits vary though.
I noticed Kinsella's even split too - the group he's in always were pretty good at picking their tournaments, e.g. taking advantage of the Canadian events and not assuming all the weaker events were in Africa and Asia.
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Alex did play and event in New Dehli didn't he, reaching the quarters? And i assume New Cali and Oz Open fall into that as well, i think think Staty changed that to be rest of the world?
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Interesting, but what is proven? With few exceptions (Boggo, Josh, Slabba) most points have been won in UK or Europe and certainly not "Chasing around the world"