Week 10 - Futures F3 (15k) - Tipton, Great Britain

nadster · Improver

RE: Week 10 - Futures F3 (15k) - Tipton, Great Britain

steven · Tennis legend

mjd wrote:
EVANS (GBR) / KONTINEN (FIN) def BLOOMFIELD (GBR) / MARRAY (GBR) 4-6 6-3 10-5

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Seriously, it seems a very odd result.

steven · Tennis legend

nadster wrote:

ForeverDelayed wrote:
And with the talk of the French Davis Cup squad - maybe they should be playing Robert and Blandin.... if they cannot even get through round one with three top 10 players, another very talented player in Gasquet, and one of the best doubles players in the world in Llodra, then there doesn't appear to be any hope for them!

Grant you the French were facing the tough Czechs. Berdych seems to get up for Davis Cup ( even though he seems to be a head case otherwise).

As well, I question Guy Forget's selection. Gasquet, while talented, is a known head case who will never rise to the big occasion. I don't think he foresaw that Simon would struggle at DC but why didn't they play Clement or Santora with Llodra in the doubles. Both are strong doubles players who know Llodra well and are much tougher mentally than Gasquet who is not used to playing doubles.

I think it serves Forget right for claiming that he had the best French team since the quatre Mousquetaires way back before GB's last DC win. Putting Dammit in the doubles does seem like a very bad idea, and it seems like the usually reliable Simon cracked under the strain of making his DC debut.

However, the last three French DC titles came the year after they'd suffered shock losses in R1 ...

The Knight · Challenger qualifying

I think it's quite harsh to pick on Forget about picking Gasquet, Simon was so abysmal (especially for a player with his solid, high percentage style of play) France should never have got close to losing that tie

mjd wrote:
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EVANS (GBR) / KONTINEN (FIN) def BLOOMFIELD (GBR) / MARRAY (GBR) 4-6 6-3 10-5

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Seriously, it seems a very odd result.

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Well, Kontinen is the Wimbledon junior runner-up and we know Evo is very talented. Granted though, Bloomers and Marray losing is a bit odd

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

steven wrote:

nadster wrote:

ForeverDelayed wrote:
And with the talk of the French Davis Cup squad - maybe they should be playing Robert and Blandin.... if they cannot even get through round one with three top 10 players, another very talented player in Gasquet, and one of the best doubles players in the world in Llodra, then there doesn't appear to be any hope for them!

Grant you the French were facing the tough Czechs. Berdych seems to get up for Davis Cup ( even though he seems to be a head case otherwise).

As well, I question Guy Forget's selection. Gasquet, while talented, is a known head case who will never rise to the big occasion. I don't think he foresaw that Simon would struggle at DC but why didn't they play Clement or Santora with Llodra in the doubles. Both are strong doubles players who know Llodra well and are much tougher mentally than Gasquet who is not used to playing doubles.
I think it serves Forget right for claiming that he had the best French team since the quatre Mousquetaires way back before GB's last DC win. Putting Dammit in the doubles does seem like a very bad idea, and it seems like the usually reliable Simon cracked under the strain of making his DC debut.

However, the last three French DC titles came the year after they'd suffered shock losses in R1 ...

Forget definately got the tactics wrong - Simon hasn't had a great season and his game matches up horribly to Stepanek's, so at the very least he should have been replaced in for the 4th rubber.

And in the doubles Gasquet was the weak link - but I suppose although Clement/Llodra would have probably been a guarenteed point, it leaves them slightly weaker in the singles having to leave out two of SImon/Monfils/Tsonga/Gasquet from the squad - that said, Llodra on a fast indoor court is a big threat, while Clement is having a decent season.

If the French can get a good draw next year though, they could win the tournament - but they could also get something like away to Chile in the play-offs and Gonzo has a stormer to relegate them.

mjd wrote:
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EVANS (GBR) / KONTINEN (FIN) def BLOOMFIELD (GBR) / MARRAY (GBR) 4-6 6-3 10-5

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Not convinced that it is a tank at all - because it simply makes no sense unless Jonny is going to try challenger qualies next week, which I don't think he is going to do as it makes no sense to do so.

Probably just threw in a poor service game in the second set and then Kontinen and Evans played a great MTB.

wolf · Tennis legend

Honestly it is not that big of a surprise as Kontinen looked very good yesterday in the doubles and he and Evans made a decent pairing. Would of expected Bloomers & Marray to win but these things happen.

Evans can definately beat Yani tomorrow if he keeps his nerve but I can't see past Robert for the title (although Minar is the dark horse). I would back Bloomers to make the final though as he seems to be playing much better than in qualifying.

-- Edited by wolf at 21:07, 2009-03-11

daisy · County player

Good to meet you yesterday Wolf............

I think I might be up at Tipton again tomorrow Thursday - big debate between a lie-in and getting up early to drive 2hrs to watch the tennis.....

Can't find OOP yet???

If anyone from BT wishes to receive text scores please PM me.
Cheers

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:

steven wrote:

Last summer, Walter lost to Jonny Kinsella and both Edward Seator and David Brewer took a set off him, but earlier in the year he was in commanding form in a GB Future, thrashing both Milton & the Skupster on green clay in Bournemouth. I;d hope Bloomers would have the edge on indoor hard, though the winner is likely to face Robert in the semis.
No, he isn't: Robert is in the other half of the draw. Bloomers/Walter will play Metenier (8)/Sijsling or Mertens (4) in the SF.

Sijsling saw off Metenier this afternoon, so the number of potential SF opponents for Bloomers, if he beats Walter, is reduced to two: Sijsling or Mertens (4). Sijsling's now beginning to look a little bit dangerous... *eek*

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

daisy wrote:
Can't find OOP yet???

Try this.

The Knight · Challenger qualifying

Steven got something wrong...what?!?!?

daisy · County player

Stircrazy wrote:

daisy wrote:
Can't find OOP yet???
Try this.

Thank you very much - for some strange reason I thought it'd be on the ITF site. Silly me!!!

OK, an 11am start is civilised so I'll be up there for the 2 singles; not so sure about dubs if it means sitting in Birmingham rush hour traffic on the way home....

EDIT - just realised that I need to be here at 10am tomorrow morning to book tickets for Wimbledon Roof Testing on 17th May. That may alter plans for Tipton because it takes me 2hrs to get there.
Hmmmmmmmm...........

-- Edited by daisy at 22:17, 2009-03-11

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

daisy wrote:

Can't find OOP yet???

Stircrazy wrote:

Try this.

daisy wrote:

Thank you very much - for some strange reason I thought it'd be on the ITF site. Silly me!!!

You're very welcome. The ITF site is a pain in the proverbial in more ways than one! It never gives OoPs, for starters. hmm

They're available only on the Challengers & Futures page of the ATP site or on the site for the tournament in question - if it has one. wink

mjd · Challenger qualifying

steven wrote:

mjd wrote:
EVANS (GBR) / KONTINEN (FIN) def BLOOMFIELD (GBR) / MARRAY (GBR) 4-6 6-3 10-5
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Seriously, it seems a very odd result.

It may have something to do with the stupid scheduling, Jonny and Rich had just faced off against each other in singles and then had doubles, OK I know they are entitled to 3/4 hour break but......! Also it cant help the fact that one had to beat the other, however good friends they may be.
Similarly tomorrow Evans is 2nd singles match followed by doubles, whereas if he had been placed 1st match he may have had more time to recover. I say 'may' because they only schedule 1 hour per match, whereas most everybody else allows 1.1/2 hours - but now I am trying to be logical - bad mistake.

(Yes I do understand the graphic Steven wink )

steven · Tennis legend

The Knight wrote:
Steven got something wrong...what?!?!?

You can't have been around here long if you think that's unusual LOL disbelief Luckily for me, I usually spot the howlers before anyone else does, but this time I wasn't so lucky. wink

Re, Bloomers/Marray - I just couldn't resist using that graphic really ashamed but I did wonder if perhaps Jonny wanted to dash off to Challenger qualifying somewhere. I guess it wouldn't have gone to three sets had that been the case and I didn't realise Kontinen was any good until Wolf pointed it out.

daisy · County player

Sorry folks but I'm not going to Tipton after all.......

I'm trying to get tickets for the Wimbledon Roof testing day on 17th May and since it takes me 2hrs to get to Tipton I think I'd end up miss both singles matches if I set off now 'cos I doubt I'd arrive much before 1pm.