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Post Info TOPIC: Week 8 - Davis Cup Play-offs - NTC
Who will make the team ? [42 vote(s)]

Colin & Josh
7.1%
Colin & Alex
0.0%
Colin & Dan
9.5%
Colin & Chris
0.0%
Colin & James
0.0%
Josh & Alex
7.1%
Josh & Dan
33.3%
Josh & Chris
14.3%
Josh & James
11.9%
Dan & Chris
2.4%
Dan & James
2.4%
Dan & Alex
0.0%
Alex & James
7.1%
Alex & Chris
0.0%
James & Chris
4.8%


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RE: Week 8 - Davis Cup Play-offs - NTC


The first two sets of Ward v Eaton were pretty one sided.  Eaton was in the same  form as at Wimbledon last year, with Ward unable to get a look in on his serve.  There were very few rallies as for the most part Eaton couldn't match Ward from the back of the court so would either rush the net or go for a winner early on.  While this was effective to begin with, in the 3rd set Ward was beginning to read Eaton's serve and get more returns back in play.  Eaton could sense the match was getting away from him and Ward knew he was coming back, so it was getting pretty heated.  Both would unnecessarily over celebrate after winning unimportant points, Eaton after Ward netted a return for 15-0 and Ward after Eaton netted a volley for 15 all.  Ward wasn't very impressed with Eaton's game, vocally announcing he knew where Eaton was going to serve before Chris himself did.  He steped his game up in the 4th set, returning Chris's serve a lot easier and regularly claiming his own shots were 'huge ' and 'too big' after hitting a winner.  In the 5th Ward was arguing with the umpire and the one line judge almost every game.  There weren't that many bad calls, and no terrible errors.  He said either every ball was hitting the back of the line or the umpire needs glasses and that it was a 'scandal'.  Both players were understandably beginning to tire, and the serves had a little less power and routine shots were drifting out.  Eaton saved a few break ponts with some great serve and volleying and Ward saved a few match points, including coming back from love 40 in the game before he was broken.  Eventuall Eaton came out on top, but obviously it could have gone either way.

The majority of the crowd were LTA officials or coaches and there a few players, mostly juniors who split their time between watching, training on the adjacent courts and being in the gym.  I recognised Laura Robson and Joanna Henderson, and pretty sure one if not both of the Ren sisters.  The boys I recognised were Cox and Willis, althiugh they were supporting Evans and then hanging around with him for the rest of the matches.  I think Smethurst was with them too.  Hutchins also watched quite a bit, as did Goodall once his match finished and Fleming would come in and out.  Keothavong was wondering around a bit too.  I'd say there was maybe a peak of about 60-70 in the latter half of the 5th set of the last match, with an average of about 30 throughout the morning.

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Thanks Josh your a hero !!!

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Appreciate the reports Josh, interesting reading..



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Thanks Josh, you went way above and beyond the call of duty today smile.gif ... as did the Count transcribing all the texts.

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Shhh wrote:

Its not hard to predict a degree of controversy whatever final two are selected.



I think JL has made a mistake in asking the two with a 2-0 record (Josh and Chris) to play off.  Its almost he's setting it up so that he has the option to exercise his choice over results.

If Josh wins then he gets a spot by having three wins.  Chris will be on two wins, the same as the winner from the Colin Fleming vs James Ward match.  I suspect Chris would get the nod.

If Chris beats Josh though (and secures his place with 3 wins) it'll be Josh on 2 wins, the same as the winner from the Colin Fleming vs James Ward match.    It will be certainly harsh on whatever player who dosen't get picked despite having two wins, they'd be be able to argue a case as to why the choice is wrong and could certainly leave the NTC feeling pretty agrieved and disliked.

Why has JL set it up this way?

 



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Fairly obvious, I think. He said anyone who wins all three of their matches this week is guaranteed a place in the team. If he had Josh playing Wardy and Chris playing Colin on Friday, two players could win 3/3 and his hands would then be completely tied because he would have to choose both of them.

This way, he's only going to be forced to pick one player and he's then going to have a choice of two players with 2/3 and I assume he'll pick one of them even though he hasn't guaranteed that he will. He risks annoying the player on 2/3 whom he doesn't pick, but I think he'd rather that than have his hands completely tied.

Looking at the possible scenarios for players on 2/3:

Josh loses, Colin wins - it'll be hard not to pick Josh given that he beat Colin in straight sets unless Josh is clearly running out of steam on Friday, which seems unlikely.

Chris loses, Wardy wins - it'll be hard not to pick Chris given that he won the match between the two of them - you can argue that it was so close as makes no difference and both of them did their fair share of choking (or determined saving of BPs/MPs depending on how you look at it!), but prevailing in close matches is a big thing in DC, so I think Chris would get the nod, unless he breaks down on Friday.

Chris loses, Colin wins - I think he'd go for Chris, but if Josh beats him as easily as he beat Colin and Colin beats Wardy more easily than Chris did, who knows - Colin is probably better doubles backup too, in case Andy's ankle can't survive three days in a row. (I wouldn't say it's a 100% certainty that Andy will play at all, btw, but I hope any doubts there are proved wrong!)

Josh loses, Wardy wins - I think he'd go for Josh, but since these two haven't played each other and James would have recovered from a gruelling loss to win his next one, it wouldn't be hard to make an argument for him either.


-- Edited by steven at 07:16, 2009-02-26

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he might be playing josh Vss. chris to see who will be number two and who will be number three singles player

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How will this scenario change if Murray doesn't play ? Ankle Injury!



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i still think JL should go with ed Seator and Tom Rushby.

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steven wrote:

Thanks Josh, you went way above and beyond the call of duty today smile.gif ... as did the Count transcribing all the texts.



Sorry Steven but there is no way Im calling the Count a 'hero' like I did of Josh.

He is bad enough without that kind of appreciation... smile.gif

Thanks Jak wink.gif



-- Edited by Drew at 12:57, 2009-02-26

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Hero, who said hero? LOL

And yes, freerider, you might have a point there! smile

-- Edited by steven at 13:02, 2009-02-26

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Friday OOP

Friday - Josh Goodall v Chris Eaton
Friday - James Ward v Colin Fleming
Friday - Alex Slabinsky v Dan Evans

So a winner takes all match between Josh & Chris.

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Count Hero to the rescue!!!!!

or maybe that's hero to zero in one post sadangel.gif

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Josh wrote:

The first two sets of Ward v Eaton were pretty one sided.  Eaton was in the same  form as at Wimbledon last year, with Ward unable to get a look in on his serve.  There were very few rallies as for the most part Eaton couldn't match Ward from the back of the court so would either rush the net or go for a winner early on.  While this was effective to begin with, in the 3rd set Ward was beginning to read Eaton's serve and get more returns back in play.  Eaton could sense the match was getting away from him and Ward knew he was coming back, so it was getting pretty heated.  Both would unnecessarily over celebrate after winning unimportant points, Eaton after Ward netted a return for 15-0 and Ward after Eaton netted a volley for 15 all.  Ward wasn't very impressed with Eaton's game, vocally announcing he knew where Eaton was going to serve before Chris himself did.  He steped his game up in the 4th set, returning Chris's serve a lot easier and regularly claiming his own shots were 'huge ' and 'too big' after hitting a winner.  In the 5th Ward was arguing with the umpire and the one line judge almost every game.  There weren't that many bad calls, and no terrible errors.  He said either every ball was hitting the back of the line or the umpire needs glasses and that it was a 'scandal'. 


Woah, James doesn't come out of that match sounding like such a nice guy, although this bit:

"vocally announcing he knew where Eaton was going to serve before Chris himself did"

that sounds hilarious

 



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yeh no idea what phone contract josh has but would like to thank him for yesterdays service and count also.

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