With Djookovic now only one Slam title behind Federer and Nadal and having won all 4 Slams at least twice, with a more balanced Slam spread, plus having positive overall H2H records against the other two, it may become increasingly difficult to suggest that Djokovic is not the era's best for on court achievement.

The argument may then be more about whether he ends up the all-time GOAT. Many might say an ugly GOAT but the GOAT nevertheless.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 14th of June 2021 02:33:29 PM

Yeah, I tend to agree with both the analysis and the emotions on this - but as said, it is what it is!!

So Medvedev exits at the Wimbledon L16 stage, again ending his theoretical chance of taking WR 1. The over 17 year hegemony of 4 players will continue for some tine yet.

While the asks ( at least finalist first at the French Open and then again at Wimbledon ) were always very likely to be too much, at least Medvedev has been better on ckay and grass this year and his post Wimbledon total points will rise to 10.370.

Djokovic will be somewhere from 11,113 ( with 50% of his 2019 title points ) to 12,113 ( if he wins the title again ).

1. Djokovic 11,113 / 11,313 / 12,113
2. Medvedev 10,370
3. Nadal 8,270
4. Tsitsipas 8,150
5. Zverev 7,475
6. Thiem 7,425

Yes, someone in-form like Struff or Humbert to catch him before he gets his eye in.

Djokovic has been denied entry to Australia over an issue with his visa. According to the BBC Djokovic has been in the country since Wednesday and has been told he will be

deported but his lawyers have said they will challlenge the decision.

With Medvedev losing the AO final he is still due to be behind Djokovic when AO 2021 drops out of the rankings unless he wins the Rottetdam 500. I make it that if we only allow for points due to drop off during February, Medvedev ends the month very slightly ahead. But again, he could also could have Rotterdam points. And I suppose there could be late WC entries.

Official 31/01 points :
Djokovic 11,015 : Medvedev 10,125

07/02 : both players are due to drop ATP Cup 2021 points with Medvedev adding back in his one non counter of 10 points :
Djokovic 11015 - 140 = 10875
Medvedev 10125 - 500 + 10 = 9635

14/02 : unchanged re points due to drop. Though Medvedev is entered for ATP Rotterdam 500 in the previous week so could make up ground

21/02 : both players are due to drop Aus Open 2021 points plus Medvedev due to drop Marseille 2020 points*  ) :
Djokovic : 10875 - 2000 = 8875
Medvedev : 9635 - 1200 - 45 = 8390
( Note that if Medvedev did add Rotterdam 500 title points on 14/02 he would now move 15 points ahead on 8890 )

28/02 : Djokovic due to drop Dubai 2020 title points. Djokovic is entered for ATP Dubai 500, Medvedev is entered for ATP Acapulco 500 :
Djokovic : 8875- 500 = 8375
Medvedev: 8390

So if Djokovic doesn't enter anything before Dubai wb 21/02, then if Medvedev wins the Rotterdam title, he should take over WR 1 on 21/02.

Otherwise the action moves to the following week where Medvedev would be ahead, allowing for Djokovic's points drop, so it would then be down to what points they earn.

 

* PS ; Medvedev doesn't actually have 45 Marseille 2020 points to defend for 24/02. These were replaced by 250 Marseille title points in March 2021 and these are not due off until the March anniversary.. So, if neiter play beforehand, there is 45 more of a live gap going into the Acapulco / Dubai week : Djokovic 8375, Medvedev 8435. Thanks live-tennis ( via Jon )

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 4th of February 2022 12:25:05 AM

christ wrote:

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How many weeks will it be since a non-Big 4 was number one?

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18 years tomorrow (Andy Roddick was no. 1 until 1 Feb 2004, before Federer took over the top spot for the first time on 2 Feb 2004, 939 weeks ago)

Talking of Roger, he has dropped out of the top 20 today for the first time in more than 20 years!