The mystery of Tara Moore's vanishing ranking points

steven · Tennis legend

The mystery of Tara Moore's vanishing ranking points

Drew · Aug 4, 2008

RE: The mystery of Tara Moore's stolen ranking points

Salmon · Tennis legend

They better return them to Tara.

Seriously, though... should we flood their email inboxes?

-- Edited by Salmon at 15:22, 2008-08-04

steven · Tennis legend

I've already emailed the WTA, let's see if anything happens.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

I looked at the rankings this morning and wondered why she had dropped so much, but didn't investigate (OK couldn't as I don't know how the women's rankings work

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The ATP frequently get things wrong so I wouldn't be surprised if the WTA do as well.

(Off topic - on the men's rankings, do wild cards in Masters Series not have to score zero if they lose in the first round? ATP have given 5 points each to Young and Levine)

indiana · Tennis legend

Madeline wrote:

I looked at the rankings this morning and wondered why she had dropped so much, but didn't investigate (OK couldn't as I don't know how the women's rankings work )

The ATP frequently get things wrong so I wouldn't be surprised if the WTA do as well.

(Off topic - on the men's rankings, do wild cards in Masters Series not have to score zero if they lose in the first round? ATP have given 5 points each to Young and Levine)

Yes, unless they've suddenly changed the rules without telling anyone, wild cards in Masters Series score zero if they lose in the first round eg. Levine in Indian Wells and Miami earlier this year. Basically, I'm pretty sure they have simply got it wrong again.

OK, it's fairly small and they'll no doubt sort it quite quickly, as they did for mistakes last week, but it is pretty poor. I presume someone didn't feed in a WC code or something and it wasn't picked up.

On the matter of Tara's ranking points, if Judy Murray has really stolen them and is holding them hostage, as regards Andy's missing points, it could get nasty, since I have always thought Judy was fairly feisty. I am puzzled though as to why she would pick on poor Tara smile

steven · Tennis legend

... especially if she could only grab 12 points from her!

And yes, another ATP mistake, for sure.

Peter too · Tennis legend

It's not due to some weird rule about the number of scoring events for a 15 year old is it?

Mervatron · Masters Series Champion

I think the rumour is that Tara has had 4 wc's between her 15th and 16th birthday and you are only allowed 3.

steven · Tennis legend

What, and they take away her highest score? That's cruel!

Peter too · Tennis legend

Does she get the points back next week when she is 16?

steven · Tennis legend

What would be most pathetic about this is that she could have played qualifying and qualified easily anyway.

Salmon · Tennis legend

That's terrible.

Especially since this would have given her direct entries into bigger event. Does she keep the money or does she have to give it to ITF/LTA/charity? At least they can't take away the experience.

But one thing that worries me is that there seems to be no system on the ITF/WTA computers that keeps track of events/wild cards? It looks like that they are just expecting people to keep to it and if they don't, they'll remove it. That's idiocy because you'll soon have some joker playing 30 events a year and getting them removed after two weeks. I bet that Julia Cohen would have done it had she known about it.

DavidC · Tennis legend

If she has broken the Age Eligibility Rule wrt wildcards then whoever looks after her affairs should be for the high jump. Penalties can be very severe, as shown below:

C. PLAYER PENALTIES
In the event a player plays in a Tournament that exceeds the
number and/or level permitted to be played under this rule, or
enters a Tournament that in any way conflicts with this rule, that
Tournament will not be counted for Ranking points for that player.
Additionally, players and/or registered members of their team who
do not comply with any of the provisions of this Age Eligibility Rule
or the requirements of PRO U are subject to a fine of up to
$25,000 and to being barred from competing in and/or attending
WTA Tour and ITF Womens Circuit Tournaments and Fed Cup for
up to six (6) months.

Salmon · Tennis legend

$25,000 *gulp*

Hopefully there won't be a fine. I am not bothered if there's a ban for six months because she'll be playing most of her allotted women's tourneys next year as it is.