Week 32 - Great Britain F12 (Wrexham 10K) - 2008.

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

RE: Week 32 - Great Britain F12 (Wrexham 10K) - 2008.

talp · Junior player

flan is talps man

GavinUK · Lower Club Player

As far as I understand things, the major disadvantage for Evo's ban is that he can't get a wc into Cumberland. So he'll have to qualify for that too. He's going to be knackered after all that I would have thought. Plus playing doubles as well.

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

GavinUK wrote:

As far as I understand things, the major disadvantage for Evo's ban is that he can't get a wc into Cumberland. So he'll have to qualify for that too. He's going to be knackered after all that I would have thought. Plus playing doubles as well.

As well as not being able to train at the NTC or have contact with any LTA coaches, and having to fund every single thing that he does (which is why he's playing doubles as he probably needs the money!)

And of course, missing the under 18's nationals and the US Open juniors (unless he pays the costs himself, which I'm sure he won't do), with is a real disaster for him smile

Salmon · Tennis legend

It's not a disadvantage in real terms at all. If he still were with the LTA, he'd be sitting beside a river and floating paper boats (or doing something about as useful as that) right now.

GavinUK · Lower Club Player

I hadn't realised about all the other penalties. The financial one has to hurt. But is it really such a problem that he's not playing in the junior nationals when he seems to be going okay at these futures events? I don't know all the pros and cons of this.

steven · Tennis legend

ForeverDelayed wrote:

steven wrote:

I bet Flan disappears for months again after shovelling up all the points
He's already entered the next 2 GB Futures

I might have to let him off then. He's certainly someone who could have reached the top 500 if he could be bothered.

johnnylad · Tennis legend

Hey Gavin!

You may find this thread useful -

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=61841&p=3&topicID=13666061

Well done to Evo. Gutted for Bamford and Illy. Fair play to Flan.

DJ · County player

steven wrote:

This is a 10K where the points go 0, 1, 2, 4, 8, 12, but Tehran is a 15K where the points go 0, 1, 3, 6, 12, 18.

-- Edited by steven at 17:31, 2008-08-07

... and just to confuse things further for you, Gavin, there's a third category of Future, though they're few and far between, which is known as a 15K + H ( the 'H' is for hospitality, i.e. the players are housed and fed for free). The points for it go 0, 1, 4, 8, 16, 24. It was from one of these in Nigeria last December that Alex Slabinsky earned 24 points and really launched his career.

If you're one of those few of us who are really keen on doubles, the Futures doubles points system is different from the singles in that points are not awarded until the semi-final round.

And a final point - Challenger and Tour events don't require Lesley Welch-style feats of memory (all right, hands up all those able to remember The Memory Man!!), because the draw-sheet usually carries a note of points (and prize money) at its base.

GavinUK · Lower Club Player

johnnylad wrote:

Hey Gavin!

You may find this thread useful -

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=61841&p=3&topicID=13666061

Hey, thanks for that, yes it helps a lot, but raises more questions which I should probably ask in another thread. smile

Or just wait till I figure it out.

helki · Futures qualifying

DJ wrote:

And a final point - Challenger and Tour events don't require Lesley Welch-style feats of memory (all right, hands up all those able to remember The Memory Man!!), because the draw-sheet usually carries a note of points (and prize money) at its base.

This'll have to do DJ, there are no "hands up" emoticons.

To tidy up. wink

Brewer & Flanagan (1) beat Daniell & Reix 3-6 6-4 [11-9]

Brassington & Brooklyn beat Bains & Evans (3) 6-3 5-7 [10-5]

DJ · County player

steven wrote:

ForeverDelayed wrote:

steven wrote:

I bet Flan disappears for months again after shovelling up all the points
He's already entered the next 2 GB Futures

I might have to let him off then. He's certainly someone who could have reached the top 500 if he could be bothered.

Just to reinforce the point Steven is making, I append a comment in a report I wrote for BT.net having watched a day at last November's Sunderland Futures:

Flanagan looked quite brilliant for much of the time - the best player I saw today other than Voltchkov

Other players whose matches I'd watched include Josh Goodall, Alex Slabinsky, Chris Eaton, Ken Skupski and Dan Cox, as well as some quality foreign players such as Adriam Mannarino. My overall report on Flan was scathing - sorry, Ian, but you deserved it - but the quality of his play was very high; given the right attitude, and the right breaks, I'd have said top 200, rather than 500.

DJ · County player

helki wrote:

DJ wrote:

And a final point - Challenger and Tour events don't require Lesley Welch-style feats of memory (all right, hands up all those able to remember The Memory Man!!), because the draw-sheet usually carries a note of points (and prize money) at its base.

This'll have to do DJ, there are no "hands up" emoticons.

Betcha Madeline finds one!!

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Hmm. Will this one do?

helki · Futures qualifying

Madeline wrote:

Hmm. Will this one do?

No! That's a wave goodbye or hello. Get searching. wink