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RE: Cincy 2008 Battle of the Boards 'Spot the Muppet' lottery


I'm kinda pleased I chose to stay out of this one after my Wimby debacle.

And the French Open debacle.

That was it but it's enough to put me off for a bit.

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Just offer him a fiver and he'd do it

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Unfortunately, that's Sheddie you're talking to there. evileye

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FRIDAY REPORT

TEAMS

R3 winners Centre Court are still on top - how do they do it? Their lead has been closed slightly - not by TAT, who have dropped a place to 3rd, but by QF winners AM.com, up 1 to 2nd. The Murray 'B' team, JM.org, also did well on the back of Andy's win, moving up 3 to 5th, while MTF, down 3 to 8th, swapped places with them.

BT.net have finally climbed a place off the bottom, leaving the Feddies rooted to the bottom of the table and almost certain to stay there.

INDIVIDUALS

There is no doubt who the star of the day was - Gillyflower (GR), up 1 to 1st and taking a 3-point lead after being the only entrant to get all four semi-finalists correct! Like the RG winner, she has gained 1st place on the back of picking the surprise semi-finalist, but unlike him, she isn't sure of the title yet - she needs Rafa to win the tournament or a Rafa v Ivo Final to cement her win. Gilly is also 5th= out of 11471 in the ATP Bracket Challenge!

Thursday's leader Kirkus (TA), down 1 to 2nd, leads the chasing pack in what could be one of the most exciting final weekends in a pick 'em for a while. Unusually, there are still four people in 3= (all down 1 on Thursday) who can't be separated on tiebreak - overall world no. 1 Wendy (AM), world no. 15 WimbledonAce (CC), world no. 391 nicro6 (AM) and pick 'em newbie edward seator (BT), who admittedly has bigger fish to fry at the moment, since he is playing one (or, with luck, two) matches in qualifying for the Segovia Challenger today - good luck with that!

MOVERS

Although the new leader was the only entrant to get every semi-finalist correct, lots of people got 3/4. The fastest climbers among them were reigning US Open pick 'em Champion amalyn (MT), mattk77 (SG), conchita (TY) and Jennifer3164 (AR), all up 53 to 113=.

The biggest faller was the highest-placed entrant who got no semi-finalists correct, despite picking three of the quarter-finalists - andrewjshields (RF) plummeted 142 places to 160th. Six other entrants suffered three-figure drops as well.

OUTLOOK

All of the top 6 except Kirkus (who will be hoping Ivo can beat Andy) have a Rafa v Muzza Final. If that happens and Rafa wins, Gillyflower will take the title (and since she'll be the one who picked the last big surprise in the tournament if that happens, i.e. Ivo beating Fed and reaching the SFs, she'll deserve it!), but if that happens and Muzza manages to win, edward seator will take the title in his first pick 'em.

However, if Nole manages to beat Rafa in the semis, independents Flintstone, Ashley Harkleroad's Bitch (both CC defectors) and Edged are sitting just outside the top 10 ready to pounce and with significant numbers having picked Andy, Nole and Rafa to win, unless it's a Rafa v Ivo Final, this one is going to go right to the wire!

In the teams comp, current leaders Team CC will only hold onto their lead until the end if Ivo beats Rafa in the Final. If the Final is Nole v Ivo, TAT will win, while if Muzza reaches the Final and/or Rafa wins the title, AM.com will be walking off with the spoils of victory.


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SATURDAY REPORT

Andy and Nole winning on Saturday produced a massive shake-up in the tables ...

TEAMS

Muzza reaching the Final took AM.com up 1 to 1st and into an unassailable lead and JM.org, clear winners of the semi-final round, up 2 to 3rd. TAT, up 1 to 2nd, are keeping the two brothers apart, while yesterday's leaders Centre Court have slipped 3 places to 4th with the worst SF score out of any of the top 6 teams. The Feddies remain firmly rooted to the bottom.

INDIVIDUALS and OUTLOOK

He may have lost to Prpic in the 2nd qualifying round at the Segovia Challenger today (after beating a Spaniard in QR1), but the top-ranked tennis player among us, GB no. 9 edward seator (BT), up 2 to 1st, has stormed to the top of the individual table after getting both finalists right, dislodging by a single point yesterday's leader gillyflower (GR), whose 1st place before the Nole-Rafa match was combined with 4= out of over 11000 entrants in the ATP Bracket Challenge at that stage.

Completing the top three is joint R1 winner dssl973/Ma$terpiec£ (AM), up 7 to 3rd - Edward will win on his pick 'em debut, with dssl 2nd and sid (TY) (up 9 to 9th today) 3rd if Muzza wins the title.

Breathing down their necks are Flintstone (IN) WR 5, up 7 to 4th, and Ashley Harkleroad's Bitch (IN) WR 3, up 7 to 5th - if Nole wins the title, they will celebrate their new-found independence by taking the top two places, while their former team-mate Lex (CC), up 11 to 10th today, will cap perhaps the greatest pick 'em comeback of all time by taking 3rd place, having been 222= (equal 2nd to last) at the end of R1!

MOVERS

All of the entrants who got both finalists right moved up strongly today, with Caro (AM), up 81 to 64th, scruffybearmac (JM), up 89 to 70th, Linda (AM) WR 2 up 87 to 74th, SarahEva (JM), up 89 to 85th, & jjnow (TA), up 86 to 90th, all up more than 80 places.

Choka (CC) & David Thompson, both down 56 to 87=, lead the fallers who failed to predict either of the fnalists.

AND FINALLY ...

It may have been rubbish at the start (and still is for many of us!), but this pick 'em has turned out to be the most exciting for the final weekend that we have had this year!

It's been most rubbish for the robots though - none of them will finish in the top 100 and all except Billy will finish in the bottom half of the table!


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FINAL REPORT

TEAMS

Congratulations to AM.com on winning the teams competition and being the only team to average over 50%. Perhaps not surprisingly given the result, they were joined in the top two by SF and Final winners JM.org, up 1 to 2nd, who pushed TAT down into 3rd place at the last moment.

In fact, the Jamies had the higher average before the team size statistical adjustment came into play, but my impression from over the whole tournament is that the adjustment did give the right result here.

Long-time leaders and overall no. 1 team Centre Court finished 4th in the end, with T4Y also finishing in the top half - a very good performance by their standards.

At the other end of the table, the poor old Feddies finished last for the third pick 'em out of the last four - they must be getting pretty Feddie up by now.

INDIVIDUALS

When you're a pro in the top 600, it must take a fair bit of courage to put your picking skills on the line by entering with your own name, but boy did that pay off for GB no. 9 edward seator (BT), who not only won the individual comp at his first attempt but also became the first entrant ever to gain a single tournament ranking point score of more than 900!

Remember that the bonus point component of the pick 'em rankings rewards players based on how far above the average their final score is, so you are always going to be better rewarded for bolder picks (like neither Fed nor Rafa reaching the Final and none of the big three winning the tournament) when those picks actually come off.

Anyway, many congratulations, Edward - I'm sure we all hope that your success will tempt one or two other pros to try their hand!

In fact, Andy to win pickers filled all of the places in the top three, with dssl973/Ma$terpiec£ (AM), up 1 to 2nd, and sid (TY), up 6 to 3rd, grabbing the other two positions on the 'podium'. However, it was nice to see that under the new, more balanced scoring system we are using this year, the other star of this pick 'em, gillyflower (GR), the only entrant who picked Big Ivo to reach the semis, managed to finish as high as 4th (down 2 today) despite not getting the Champion right.

Roastlamb (AM), up 12 to 5th, completed the top five with a late run thanks to Andy's win, while three of the top five in the overall rankings before this tournament (Flintstone (IN), down 2 to 6th, Ashley Harkleroad's ***** (IN), down 2 to 7th, and Wendy (AM), down 3 to 9=), showed their amazing consistency even in this most tricky of tournaments by finishing in the Cincy top 10.

Dale123 (AM), up 14 to 8th, completed the top 8, while WimbledonAce (CC) and nicro6 (AM) joined Wendy in 9= to give us 11 entrants who can claim to have finished in the top 10!

MOVERS

15 of the 224 entrants picked Muzza to win (mainly AMs/JMs) and the two highest climbers on the final day were Swissgirl (IN), up 68 to 90th, and <oh my goodness!> Sallydaisy (JM), up 64 to 103rd, Andy's win taking them into the top half of the table at the last moment. Sally beat every single one of the Bots, who have apparently all clanked off in a huff to get their brains oiled! Maybe I'd better join them ...

The majority of us dropped a few places, of course, but nobody dropped more than 10.

GROUP COMPS

Many of you may think that Edward's win here just goes to show that the more active a player is, the better their prediction skills. In fact, he's the exception that proves the rule - would you believe that after 7 pick 'ems this year, Fans lead Actives by 7 wins to 0! (9-3 since we started last year)

In the age groups, the U18s snapped a streak of alternate wins by the young and not so young and lead 4-3 this year, though the O18s lead 7-5 since we started.

Finally, Males lead Females 5-2 this year (8-4 overall), but the Females have won two of this year's three slams.


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OVERALL RANKINGS AFTER CINCY AMS 2008

TEAMS

Centre Court did enough to stay on top, with Rusedski.co.uk and AM.com once again completing the top three. The only real movers with JM.org, moving up 3 to 9th after their 2nd place finish in Cincy.

INDIVIDUALS

When he first entered a pick 'em, Bethan and I quickly discussed whether we ought to insist that he changed his name to something that wouldn't get censored on half the boards, but I opined that anyone who called himself "Ashley Harkleroad's *****" must be such a twonk that he wouldn't last long in pick 'ems and would never be close enough to the top of any tables for anyone to notice. As famous last words go, they've turned out to be pretty infamous!

So yes, having only started playing with Miami 2008, Wimbledon Pick 'em Champion AH'sB (IN), up 2 to 1st, has now become the overall no. 1, having never scored less than 500 ranking points in a pick 'em and having finished 7th in Cincy following that Wimby win.

By a strange coincidence, Flintstone (IN), 3rd at Wimby, is now 3rd (up 2) in the overall rankings after finishing 6th in Cincy. Even she has only been playing since the start of the year. Previous no. 1 Wendy (AM), 9= in Cincy, has only dropped one place and is now in 2nd, just 70 points behind "the name we dare not say". In fact, all of the top five are still the same people but they have shuffled around - another former no. 1 Linda (AM) has dropped 2 more places to 4th and amalyn (MT) is down 1 to 5th.

New to the top 10 are WimbledonAce (CC), up 6 to 9th after finishing 9= in Cincy, and RoastLamb (AM), up 8 to 10th after finishing 5th in Cincy. They replace Fedex (GR), down 2 to 11th, and NyGeL (MT), down 2 to 12th.

The highest climbers in the top 50 are DR4Life (AM), up 36 to 36th after a 21st place finish in Cincy and Luke Croll (GR), up 33 to 50th - he finished 17th in Cincy after a dire start.

Climbing more than 40 places in(to) the top 100 are Cincy runner-up dssl973/Ma$terpiec£ (AM), up 48 to 72nd, Lex (CC), up 41 to 67th after recovering from equal second last after R1 to finish 13th in Cincy, and Dale123 (AM), up 41 to 70th after finishing 8th in Cincy.

The highest climber in(to) the top 200 was Cincy 4th placed Gillyflower (GR), up 134 to 198th, but the highest climber of all was timmadigan (CC), up 238 to 410th after coming 24th in Cincy, almost as near the top as he was near the bottom in his only other pick 'em!

The highest new entrant was of course Cincy winner edward seator (BT), in at 334, already in the top half of the 700+ ranked players. Although his ranking point haul was an all-time record for a single tournament, a newbie who wins a slam tends to enter higher simply because slam scores can be counted twice.

Last year's Cincy winner Claire Bear (AM) did drop 31 places to 83rd but hangs onto a place in the top 100 fairly comfortably, but the biggest faller I can find was Wan (AM), down 106 to 320th.

For detailed final Cincy AMS results, an updated pick 'em Hall of Fame and new overall rankings, please see http://www.britishtennis.net/Competitions.html

See you again for the US Open!


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I did not enter this time (Holidays) but 1,000,000,000 thanks again to Steven and all who helped him in running this again.

You are a star !

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Thanks a lot for organising this, Steven and Grundon, and also Robxon (and anyone who wasn't mentioned or whom I've forgotten).


I won't even pretend that I enjoyed this. doh.gif Congrats to Ed, though!

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I've crept into the top 300 after just 2 tournaments! Get in haha. I've set myself a target of top 200 by year end! lol

Well done Ed mate good to see not only British winner, but a BT winner. Thanks Steven for doing all of this I take my hat off to you

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Well done to Edward on winning the title!

Another disappointing tournament for me, and I've got to do something at the US Open, because otherwise when by Madrid title and top 5 finish in Paris come off I'm going to be in real trouble... I need Nalby to make another miracle run or find somewhere to come from nowhere and win me the title!

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well at least i finished in the top half, and beat the Shed!

think i may need to start having a bit more faith in andy (uh oh have i cursed him?) and a little less in fed.

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Excellent start for Ed - congratulations. A very welcome addition to the team.

Rubbish from me but it was more interesting to see greater variety of choices, particularly for the winner picks. Should make the US Open another good challenge.

Huge thanks to Steven and team.

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It wasn't too hard to beat the Shed this time, Count!

Thanks again to Ross (Grundon) for dealing with all the entries, he did a great job standing in for Bethan and sorted virtually all the problems out before the sheets got to me which was a big bonus I wasn't expecting from a first-timer!

Also to Rob (Robxon) for going through the testing process and giving us a backup plus another option for the future. It might also make it possible for two people to do a day and a bit each before slam pick 'ems, where the number of entrants is getting too high for just one person to deal with.

There's no way I could have coped last weekend without their help, and while it's been a pretty bad pick 'em for me personally, it turned out to be one of the best yet overall, with plenty of excitement right to the end.

We usually only get about half as many entries for AMS pick 'ems as for slams, yet we still managed to get more entrants for Cincy AMS this time than for the USO last year, which seemed huge at the time - I think we'll probably be under the 500 entrant limit for the USO, but it might be close, so don't leave it too late to enter unless you're in the top 200 of the overall rankings!
 
Also, if I had £1 for every moan there's been in pms/emails/on forums about there being no pick 'em for the Olympics, I'd be getting quite rich. wink (no we're not, for lots of reasons, and no, you can't convince us! smile)

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sheddie just fell victim to my psychological warfare and bottled it.

edit: you know a olympics pickem could be good. £1 please.


-- Edited by Count Zero at 13:35, 2008-08-04

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