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Cincy AMS 2008 Battle of the Boards Pick 'Em Competition - *help needed*


The next scheduled inter-board pick 'em contest is Cincy AMS, which starts next Monday. We've been caught out a bit by the fact that it starts so early this year and unfortunately Bethan, who usually pastes the entries into the entry spreadsheet, is going to be away on holiday while all the entries are coming in.

Unfortunately, I can't process all the entries myself and do all the other stuff involved (there just aren't enough hours in the day or night), so we were wondering if somebody else here would be willing to help out for this tournament in order to avoid us having to cancel it, which would mean no more pick 'ems until the USO.

If you think you might be able to help after reading what follows, please pm me or email btpickem@hotmail.com. If you have any questions about what it's like to actually do it though, Bethan (imoen on here) is the best person to ask.

What's involved?

When someone fills in the entry form and sends it, it creates an email which contains all the entry details. Those emails would be set up to go to you. N.B. don't worry, your email address will not be in the entry form's html code and none of the entrants will be able to see what it is.

You then need to highlight everything in that email (i.e. drag your mouse down over it) and copy and paste it into the main entry Excel file which I will provide you with. After pasting each entry, you then do a Data/Sort on the range that will already be highlighted to get the fields into the right order, since this can't be done automatically when setting up the entry form.

Other than that, you just need to correct any entry errors that will upset the results system (usually very easy to do and happily the errors seem to be decreasing even though the entries are increasing!) or bring them to my attention, and save the file every once in a while before uploading an automatically generated webpage to the BT.net site.

How long will it take?

We expect about 200 entries for Cincy (AMS comps usually attract about half the number of entrants we had for the last slam pick 'em) - Bethan reckons that would take her a bit over 3 hours these days, but might take a first-timer 4-5 hours spread over Friday to Monday since they would need to get into the swing of it.

When do you need to be available?

The deadline for entries will be when play starts at 4 pm UK time on Monday, so you would need to be available for up to a couple of hours next Monday late afternoon or early Monday evening in order to deal with the entries that have come in close to the deadline in time for me to get the final entrants file by mid-evening. That should mean that I can get the first results up by the close of play in the early hours so that the US entrants can see them that night and the European entrants will see them first thing in the morning.

It's also good to be able to go online for 30-60 minutes a few times between Friday evening and Sunday evening so that you can get the early entries processed during the weekend, to make it less hassly on the Monday.

It probably best suits someone who will be online a fair bit during the entry period anyway, since they can then just do a few entries at a time and end up hardly noticing them, but that's not essential.

Do you need to be an Excel whiz?

No, it's really very simple if you follow the instructions, which Bethan had no trouble following (sheddie did, but that's because he's a shambles and reads what he thinks is there instead of what's actually there! wink) and which she has kindly offered to bring up to date this week before she goes away.

If you have used Excel a bit and are used to copying/moving and pasting (you don't need to create any formulae or anything like that!) and you either have an FTP program or you don't get too frightened at the thought of downloading a free one that we can recommend as being very easy to use, then it'll be easy ... apart from the simple fact that doing 200 entries takes a fair bit of time.

Is it fun?

The task in itself is fairly routine (though you may indirectly learn a few Excel tricks by doing it), but you get to have the first look at who's picking whom (that picks analysis sheet updates itself in your Excel file as you paste entries in) and have a good laugh at some of the sillier entrants - all in good fun! You might even find people on other boards offering claiming to have slept with you - that's both optional and not guaranteed, I'm afraid. wink
 
Most of all, you get the satisfaction of of helping to make possible what I am pretty sure is the biggest (and best biggrin) wholly non-commercial tennis prediction contest on the web (which massively adds to the number of hits on this site, some of which no doubt get through to other parts of it) and something that lots of fellow tennis fans seem to get a huge amount of fun out of. smile.gif

Also, you have to believe that Bethan and I, gluttons for punishment though we are, wouldn't keep doing these contests if they weren't fun for those running them too. smile.gif

Interested?

If you'd like to help, please pm me or email me at btpickem@hotmail.com, while if you have any questions before you decide, feel free to ask either me or Bethan.

Thanks for reading! cry

-- Edited by steven at 19:52, 2008-07-22

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Don't all rush at once, now ... ashamed

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lol. i would like to help, but i just cant commit to the time, as i find it hard to tell how busy i might be at work at any given time.

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I would probably be able to help if no-one else can

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I propose Smidster smile

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One option would be to have two people doing it, e.g. one picking up the early entries over the weekend, the other processing the near-deadline ones on Monday.

It's probably simpler if one person does the lot (especially since where the email will go to is set when the entrant loads the entry form, and some have a habit of leaving it open on their computers and filling it more than 24 hours later, so that it goes to the 'wrong' person), but if it makes the difference to whether we can do it at all, splitting it would be ok.

Anyway, I'll leave this open until sometime tomorrow (maybe we'll all know a bit better how we're placed for the weekend by then) and then we can decide who's going to do it - thanks for your offer, Smidster, much appreciated.

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Sorry, can't offer any reliable help. Away from home and computer link isn't sufficiently stable to guarantee help at the right time. Hope you will be able to set up something.

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UPDATE

Thanks for the offers of help, everyone. smile Things are looking up, with three people having pm'd me sounding a bit keener than smidster (and a lot keener than the Count, the Tiger or the Fish wink) and two of them having Excel ... or not having said they don't have it yet.  

I've pm'd both of them with a couple of questions to check who it's likely to be easiest to get started, but we'll show both of them how to do it so that one of them can act as a reserve.

It's great to have a few options (i.e those two and both Smidster and someone else who emailed me, who both sounded like they'd be prepared to help if nobody else could) because if we are going to be able to run these pick ems for a few years with a reasonably stable timetable (which is desirable when so many boards are involved), we're bound to need a bit of help once or twice a year when one of us is away, so the more people who might be available to help once in a while, the better.

If all goes well tomorrow, I'll be able to confirm by Friday morning that we are definitely going ahead (having said that the CC thread on the Cincy BotB is already 2 pages long, so they are clearly in no doubt! LOL)

I imagine the main draw is going to be available on Friday evening UK time, with qualifiers placed on Sunday evening UK (qualifying ending the day before play starts is why a lot of entries come in during the last few hours for AMS events) and entries closing when play starts at 4 pm UK on Monday.

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Barring disasters, I'm pretty confident that the Cincy pick 'em is now going to be able to go ahead thanks to the help of a couple of people on here - I'll name them later to save their blushes in the unlikely event that there is a disaster. LOL

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Glad that it will happen! w00t.gif Need to make a comeback now as my last two tournaments were disasters.

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