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RE: Queens Club


I heard that as well Josh and my reaction was very similar, many tennis fans would love nothing more than to be getting paid to watch and commentate on a tour level match whatever the context or form. However I would like to think that Tim is also of that persuasion and will relish the job he has been given by the BBC.

It has been very frustrating listening to a man who despite being employed as a tennis commentator doesn't seem to have the passion for the sport that many tennis fans have, he is a sharp contrast to tennis fans [such as those on this board] that get excited watching two unranked players compete in QR1 at a Futures tournament; can you imagine 'Andy' Castle slumming it at a Futures event watching players that are outside the Top 20? [Actually, don't waste mental energy, the thought is too improbable to contemplate]

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Andrew Castle didnt do himself any favours with his questions to the crowd yesterday - making insinuating comments to a young boy about his "friendship" with the lady sitting next to him. Thought he was very silly.

Shame these commentators cant show a bit more passion for the sport

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I have to stand up for the corporate hospitality lot at the tennis. Yes it was a lot at Queens, rather too much in my opinion, but actually it serves as a really nice day out for people who work incredibly hard (Ok not all are in that boat, but many are). You can't compare a corporate day at the tennis with one at the rugby, the tennis goes on for a full 6-10 hours (11am till 8pm isn't unusual early in the tournament at Wimbers) whereas a rugby match will be over and done with in 2 hours. On top of that a single tennis match might take anything from 1hour to 5 hours. You just can't compare the two. And frankly what is wrong with people being taken out by their company (or another company) for a lovely meal, some pimms (maybe) and a chance to watch some tennis, and to include a bit of work in between? A conversation about the economy (as a random example) at change of ends between two buisness associates is no different to a conversation I might have with my mum about the book I've just read. For that matter, why on earth do us "real fans" have to scorn someone who dresses up for a day at the tennis? Does that mean I'm not allowed to look nice to watch tennis?

I'll agree that Queens doesn't have the balance right, I think Wimbledon has it slightly better. And I'll agree that tennis shouldn't be as middle class a sport as it currently is, but that's not the fault of the hospitality people.

You all need to remember that actually, we are the minority when it comes to tennis fans across the world - ie even though most football grounds are full every match, no where near all of them have the same interest/knowledge of football as we posters do of tennis. Also, the price of the ticket...yes I'd love it to be less (I'm a poor student, of course I want it cheaper) but actually when compared with a ticket for a single football match (2 hours) it's pretty good when you remember that's a whole day's worth of tennis. You get your money's worth.

Finally, maybe we are a country of 2 week tennis fans, but actually the attendance at Wimbledon is fantastic, I was watching good quality matchs at the FO this year and the stands were more than half empty, at Wimbers, the stands are normally full, with just a few hospitality seats empty some of the time. And I don't begrudge those seats, they are an important part of the way business works, you can resent that all you want but actually building relationships between business partners is really important and why shouldn't that be allowed to take place at the tennis?

Hmm, this post has turned out longer than I was intending but I wanted to say it all so I'm going to leave it. I will just close with one thing I agree totally on...down with Andrew Castle!! biggrin.gif

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Perhaps the biggest thing in favour of there being corporate hospitality at these events is that without them, I'm sure the tickets for 'normal people' would be far more expensive, so annoying as some of them are when they've had a bit too much Pimms (that probably goes for 'normal people' too btw!), things might well be worse without them.

I agree too that even though tennis tickets do seem quite expensive, they are great value for money when you think how many hours of great tennis you usually get to watch with them.

Actually, I have corporate hospitality to thank for my first ticket to Wimbledon, somewhat indirectly. In around 1990, I worked for a big company that had one of the corporate entertaining marquees at Wimby. As part of their package, they got half a dozen ground tickets, which of course they couldn't use for the nobs, so they had a staff ballot for them and one year I won one.

It was the 2nd week, but among other things, I got to see Steffi Graf and Gabi Sabatini playing a doubles QF (and losing 7-5 in the 3rd, if I remember right!) and then had Steffi suddenly appear as if from nowhere and walk right past my nose on her way back to the player's area. LOL

-- Edited by steven at 18:30, 2008-06-16

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