Greenleaf wrote:

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 Given that Edinburgh is so far away

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Greenleaf, that's EXACTLY the attitude for which we berate the LTA! Nottingham is cancelled and given to Eastbourne; Davis Cup teams awash with Scots play in London or Birmingham. From whereabouts is Edinburgh so far, exactly? - London, New Delhi? Last time I checked my atlas, it was just as far from Edinburgh to London as it was from London to Edinburgh - little wonder the SNP are in power in Scotland, given the anglocentric views of intelligent folk who are nominally British.  I'm not getting at you, Arka - it's a general attitude; the BBC and the rest of the media seem only to follow the progress of Scots when there are no English exponents about - David Coulthard is a perfect example; while it's quite fair that Lewis Hamilton is the doyen of the media because of his exploits, we had to suffer Button-mania for the past few years, when his achievements were nowhere near the standard of DC's.
Sorry to rattle on about this, but you'll find Welsh fans despairing in the same way - and, as this is a tennis forum, why are all our tournaments described as GB Futures, thereby excluding the Northern Irish; shouldn't this week have been UK F7?

Whoah! You've mistaken my innocent suggestion to be something quite different!

DJ wrote:

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Greenleaf, that's EXACTLY the attitude for which we berate the LTA! Nottingham is cancelled and given to Eastbourne; Davis Cup teams awash with Scots play in London or Birmingham. From whereabouts is Edinburgh so far, exactly? - London, New Delhi? Last time I checked my atlas, it was just as far from Edinburgh to London as it was from London to Edinburgh.

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Err... Edinburgh is far away from the rest of the tennis world. Tennis players don't travel as the crow (or any other bird) flies.

Although I don't doubt that it's an excellent city, you can't take a flight direct to Edinburgh from all countries of the world. So in most cases, it means that players will have to go to London and make a journey, which means they'll be spending more and will get tired, too.
The same goes for players living in Britain. There are so many amateurs or part time players who try out their hands at Futures qualies. Now why on earth would they spend a good deal of their hard earned money and travel to Edinburgh when they could just wait for the next Futures? [Now, of course, you could argue why Scotland doesn't have as many players at Futures level as England does, but that's for a different time.] Players don't care about Anglocentrism, political correctness, brotherhood across borders or anything like that when they're scheduling. They just think of how much it'll cost them - and for good or for bad, a Futures in Scotland will cost most players more than one in the south.

 

It's not just for Edinburgh - I'm sure that a GB Futures in Jersey, a Spanish Futures being played in North Africa or a Russian one in eastern parts of the country will get the same treatment.




I don't know about the BBC but I am not Anglocentric to the slightest degree (although I rate JB to be far better than Coulthard) and if you read my past posts (not that I recommend you to given how boring they are) you'll find that I've championed the cause of the LTA hosting an ATP event and a Challenger in Scotland on countless occasions.



 


-- Edited by Greenleaf at 20:49, 2008-05-02

Northern Ireland is indeed with Repbulic Of Ireland in Tennis.

Confirmed MD WCs.......

Amy Askew
Jennifer Ren
Amy Sargeant

4th TBC

Qualies WCs :

Hannah Hume
Michell Jlilati
Laura Hornsby
Emily Askew
Laura Collins
Lottie Fox

From Alts into Qualies :

Elizabeth Ullathorne
Alexandra Walker
Jodie Williams

john wrote:

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Nottingham is cancelled and given to Eastbourne; Davis Cup teams awash with Scots play in London or Birmingham. From whereabouts is Edinburgh so far, exactly? - London, New Delhi? Last time I checked my atlas, it was just as far from Edinburgh to London as it was from London to Edinburgh - little wonder the SNP are in power in Scotland, given the anglocentric views of intelligent folk who are nominally British. I'm not getting at you, Arka - it's a general attitude; the BBC and the rest of the media seem only to follow the progress of Scots when there are no English exponents about - David Coulthard is a perfect example; while it's quite fair that Lewis Hamilton is the doyen of the media because of his exploits, we had to suffer Button-mania for the past few years, when his achievements were nowhere near the standard of DC's.
Sorry to rattle on about this, but you'll find Welsh fans despairing in the same way - and, as this is a tennis forum, why are all our tournaments described as GB Futures, thereby excluding the Northern Irish; shouldn't this week have been UK F7?
Why are Scots so touchy? Jonnylad's right, major inferiority complex imo. And not to mention the fact that almost everything you have said is a load of absolute rubbish. Complete nonsense.

Can we please note that Henman was always described as British, the flags his supporters carried were almost always Union Jacks and he represented GBR just the same as any Scottish player does. Now with Andy, we have to put up with Braveheart music and Scottish flags all over the place every time he appears on TV. I know, I know, yes, he is Scottish. But my problem is that north of the border you all seem to live in a fantasy land where the media is biased against your sportspeople and you seem to believe the English want to "steal" all your successful sportspeople and slate the unsuccessful ones.

Take your post as an example. Arka's post wasn't meant in that intent at all but the Scotsman in you picked up on a small point and ran with it in a RAGE.

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John for goodness sakes what a lot of rubbish....whether I agree with DJ or not your steriotypical assumptions belittle your intelligence.

Your view is from where you have been brought up.....you cannot begin to understand the point of view from any other place other than your own it seems.

There have been so many times in the past where a Scot has been reported as British (Which they are of course) when the report is positive. Then the same person is reported as Scottish when they have lost etc. This is not paranoia its just that it has and will continue to happen. But it does not happen all the time.

I tend to look on Andy as patriotic. He is proud to be Scottish. And if St Andrews flags are waved to cheer him on then that is also great. But I think Andy has perhaps a blue chip on his shoulder. That may be born out of situations he has experienced growing up in Scotland trying to develop his tennis career etc....perhaps in the face of 'English' bias or bias of people who happen to be english.

For years Union jacks along side St Georges Crosses have been flown at Wimby to cheer on Tim. No problem with that either but the UJ is thr British flag. The UJ has been slightly hi-jacked as the english flag so such a long time.

No matter where it may occur but a smaller country living in the wings of a larger country from where they are ruled......the smaller country will live with a certain chip on its shoulder.

On the other hand DJ might also want to remember that the LTA brought a DC tie to Scotland..which I was at...and for most of the time the atmosphere was tepid. It did not help that Andy was injured.

So I can understand DJ's perspective and also yours John. But please dont post absolutes and your own version of non-sense about a nation of proud people you dont really understand.

Your Friend,

Drew

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And I find your accusation of the English "hijacking" the Union Jack to be more nonsense. The Union Jack is supposed to be a representation of THE UNITED KINGDOM, ie the UNION of more than one nation.

John read things properly....I accused NO ONE of hijacking the UJ. Its just a fact that people grap the UJ and wave it when supporting england...just read things right john.......and i am well aware of what the UJ it is meant to be...that was my point.

more nonsense you wrote...getting fed up of your accusations John.