Week 16 - Challenger - $35k+H - Mexico City

wolf · Tennis legend

RE: Week 16 - Challenger - $35k+H - Mexico City

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

There is such a thing as the 'doubles retirement rule', although I'm not quite sure what it entails, but if you withdraw from a doubles tournament you can ben penalised with a zero for that event, in order to stop singles players pulling out of a doubles event when they've lost early in singles.

Presume this has been enforced here, as with Bloomers and Skupski both playing in the USA on Saturday the ATP has decided that they weren't injured enough to warrant the withdrawal and so taken the points away

Or it could be the ATP is clueless again and has messed up the rankings, but I'm going to take a guess at my theory

DJ · County player

helki wrote:

seagull wrote:

Bloomfield/Skupski received zero points for the doubles??

Why? Were they defending that number from last year?

-- Edited by helki at 16:45, 2008-04-21

No, Richard should have received the full 13 they earned; Ken would only have gained a net 7, as his 'list' was full, meaning he would have to drop his lowest score, 6, in order to accommodate the 13 gained.
I wonder whether they've been penalised in some way for withdrawing?

mjd · Challenger qualifying

Only things I can assume are
(a)ATP have made a mistake
(b) Richard didnt visit the on site doctor, in which case he will be fined $1000
(c) some other unknown reason/rule from these below :-
Could this be a case for Richard's tour sponsor LCF Sports Solicitors?

The rules-
c. Retirement orWithdrawal Penalty (on-site)
1) A player who, because of injury or illness, retires during a match or
withdraws during
the Tournament week must submit to an on-site medical examination by the
designated
Tournament Doctor. Any player who retires during a match must be examined
by the Tournament Doctor prior to the end of play on the day of the
retirement.
Failure to submit to such examination shall be a violation of this Section
and shall subject a player to a fine at ATP Tournaments of $10,000 ($2,500 for the qualifying
competition) or at Challenger Series Tournaments to a fine of $1,000, ($500 for the
qualifying competition), or the amount of prize money won at the Tournament, whichever
is greater.
2) Following any on-site retirement or withdrawal, a player must submit to
an on-site examination by the designated Tournament Doctor and receive authorization
from the Supervisor before competing in any future ATP and Challenger series
Tournaments. The Supervisor's authorization shall be based on the following:
the results of the on-site medical examination; a review of such results with
one of the ATP's Medical Services Directors, if possible; and any other appropriate
information.
3) Should a doubles match in an ATP event be uncontested or fail to be
completed, the losing teamshall only receive points and prizemoney from the previous round
unless one of the following is applicable:
a) Neither player was in the singles main draw:
b) The withdrawing player is still in the singles competition and at the
time of the medical examination is declared unfit to play in the singles of that event
or, if no longer involved in the singles competition of that event, is forced to
withdrawfrom the singles of the next tournament in which he is entered.
c) The withdrawing player had withdrawn/retired from his singles match,
which was scheduled the same day.
Should a doubles match in an ATP Challenger event be uncontested or fail to
be completed, the losing team shall only receive points and prize money from the previous
round.

No Medical? Big Mistake
Case: A player retires from his singles match and leaves the
Tournament site without having been examined by the
Tournament Doctor. Later, it is discovered that the player has left
the Tournament city. What action does the Supervisor take?
Decision: Any player who fails to submit to an on-site examination
by the Tournament Doctor after retiring from a match shall be subjected
to a fine of $10,000 ($1,000 for Challenger Series
Tournaments) or the amount of prize money won at the Tournament, whichever
is greater.