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RE: Week 9 - Challenger (€42500+H) - Cherbourg, France


Was he not injured? 
Did he just have an extended gap year and went backpacking in Chile or something? 

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I've just found my own answer. He was banned for two years after failing a drugs test.

Bet you all knew that anyway.

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Beck was out for 2 years because of a drugs ban. What i find strange is that everyone is going mad at Dwain Chambers and organisers say they won't let him race, yet Karol Beck has been receiving wild cards from tournaments...


EDIT- Too slow again!wink

-- Edited by CBV at 12:23, 2008-02-26

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As I said earlier in this thread, he was suspended for 2 years for taking steroids - see http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4479568.stm / http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4665526.stm / http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4713034.stm - so obviously he wasn't going to get a PR when he came back from that.

I often wonder whether the ATP actually catch the hardened drug cheats (if there are any) or just the ones who get set-up / take something by mistake but either way, the Futures and now Challenger players are now having to bear the brunt of him not having a PR - it doesn't seem to be doing him much harm!

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I think the reason Dwain Chambers has got such a hammering is:

a) he's British
b) he's very arrogant (no doubt that's partly what made him such a good 100m runner even before he started taking drugs)
c) he apparently lied to lots of the top GB athletes who originally came out in support of him, then made them look stupid when he admitted what he'd done
d) he once went on record as saying you can't win gold medals without taking drugs (which people like Kelly Holmes, Colin Jackson, Jonathan Edwards, etc, not surprisingly took exception to!)

Maybe the tournament director of the Czech tournament that gave him a WC thought he should be given the benefit of the doubt (you can read the evidence and decide for yourself here http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_18801_original.PDF)  ) or perhaps it was a cynical (and no doubt successfu) attempt to get the press and public interested in the tournament.

-- Edited by steven at 12:34, 2008-02-26

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gagarin was a break up but its now level in the 2nd at 44.

hopefully Yuri can dig it out to give us a 3rd. i am sure brad is watching and coming up with advice for alex. i just hope al can implement it

ooo implement thats a big word for me.

the whole drugs in sport thing amazes me, i know that as soon as you reach the quaters of a slam you have to be tested (inc mixed doubles etc) also they do get random tests around the year not jst at events etc. where they just turn up to your home (you have tro give them a range of times you will be available tho)

there are of course the ones who get caught out by accident and thats a shame, but you have to be careful. If alex gets a cold he can take lemsip but not lemsip max apprantly!

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ah, the board chnaged

i guess beck won something like 64 64 :(

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Count Zero wrote:

ah, the board chnaged

i guess beck won something like 64 64 :(




I believe it was 4 & 5.



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I know, I just wonder sometimes if virtually the only ones who get caught in tennis are the ones who do it by accident, i.e. aren't taking drugs deliberately to enhance performance, since anyone doing it deliberately probably knows how to mask the effects.

Many of the cases that come before the ITF seem to involve people taking medicines provided by their doctors and nobody realising that they contained a prohibited substance and that they needed to apply for a TUE - there's one particularly sad case at http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_23945_original.PDF

Although tennis is a sport where things drugs could clearly have a big effect (strength, stamina, etc - though I guess steroid use to increase strength might also decrease accuracy), I don't think there's much drug-taking going on - possibly because most of them are playing 30 weeks a year and there isn't a long off-season, which I think is when the track athletes and cyclists tend to do most of their doping.

Was Gagarin a deliberate reference to the Yuri who was the first man in space? smile.gif

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Probably a good sign that he didn't wipe Schukin off the court like he did Santoro last week! smile.gif

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only other person i know called Yuri :)



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steven wrote:

d) he once went on record as saying you can't win gold medals without taking drugs (which people like Kelly Holmes, Colin Jackson, Jonathan Edwards, etc, not surprisingly took exception to!)



I know this has nothing to do with tennis, but Dwain never said that. He said that a drugs cheat would always prevail over a clean athlete unless the druggie was having a really bad day. Not that all gold medals are druggies.




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steven wrote:

Probably a good sign that he didn't wipe Schukin off the court like he did Santoro last week! smile.gif



yeah, yuri defainly had chances, was a break up in the 2nd and in the 1st camr from a break nehind to level and even had a chance to go a break up.

i wonder if any of Nath's friends were watching, might give us an idea.

 



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wolf wrote:

steven wrote:

d) he once went on record as saying you can't win gold medals without taking drugs (which people like Kelly Holmes, Colin Jackson, Jonathan Edwards, etc, not surprisingly took exception to!)



I know this has nothing to do with tennis, but Dwain never said that. He said that a drugs cheat would always prevail over a clean athlete unless the druggie was having a really bad day. Not that all gold medals are druggies.

Fair enough, but you can see how some gold medallists might have taken that the wrong way.

In case it wasn't clear, I'm not one of those who thinks that Dwain should continue to serve his ban after he's served it, if you see what I mean. If the authorities think the ban should have been longer in the first place, they should have made it longer in the first place.


-- Edited by steven at 13:07, 2008-02-26

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Got confused as to which page I was on.

-- Edited by mike55 at 13:12, 2008-02-26

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