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steven


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Yes, fascinating stuff. Perhaps the most shocking thing is how weak the Futures in South America are, given that it's supposed to be one of the strong regions for tennis players.

I've thought for a while that this is the case and it helps to explain why a country like Argentina has masses of apparently over-ranked clay court specialists - it shows how weak a ranking system based only on prize money levels and not taking any account of opponents' rankings are at comparing two groups of players who hardly ever meet.

This doesn't apply quite so much at the top level, where players can't choose to play on clay courts every week of the year. Having said that, Challenger and main tour clay court events in S America are similarly weak, which affects those who don't have to count all the mandatories and no doubt explains why players like Junqueira, Dabul, Vass-Arg, etc, are in or around the top 100.

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This is what my ratings say the most improved GB players are.
Bearing in mind this is out of around 5000 players - It's superb for Burnham Arlidge to come in as the 7th most improved player in the world! biggrin
Wardy 20th & Evo 31st biggrin



 Name Ak Rating 2007 Ak Rating 2008 +/-
7 Burnham Arlidge 87 244 +157
20 James Ward 381 499 +118
31 Daniel Evans 339 447 +109
72 Dan Smethurst 248 329 +81
79 Matthew Illingworth 255 334 +79
94 Alexander Ward 174 248 +73
115 Jonathan Kinsella 207 275 +69
131 Andy Murray 828 893 +65
191 Sean Thornley 207 263 +56
206 Joshua Milton 322 376 +54
213 Jamie Feaver 157 211 +53
255 Dominic Ross-Hurst -158 -111 +48
259 Marcus Willis 351 398 +47
298 Chris Eaton 417 460 +43
369 Joshua Goodall 502 539 +37
376 George Coupland 146 183 +36
388 Alexander Slabinsky 426 462 +36
417 David Rice 280 314 +34
423 Neil Pauffley 239 272 +33
430 Ashley Watling 184 217 +33
462 Andrew Fitzpatrick 84 115 +31
536 Richard Bloomfield 527 554 +27
546 Matthew James 129 156 +26





751 Kyle Brassington 126 144 +18
937 Maniel Bains 134 148 +14
1764 Daniel Cox
 344
 348
 +4
1931Robert Dee-2274-2273+1





4114 Myles Blake 296 292 -4
4868
 Colin Fleming 463 448 -14
5170
 Alex Bogdanovic 575 552 -24
5275
 Kenneth Skupski 423 396 -27
5338
 Jonathan Marray 524 494 -30
5513
 Neil Bamford 397 356 -42
5532
 Jamie Baker 554 510 -44
5552
 Ian Flanagan 410 364 -46
5658
 Morgan Phillips 463 404 -59
5693
 Tom Rushby 351 285 -66
5716
 David Brewer 327 254 -73


-- Edited by Akhenaten at 15:57, 2008-12-04

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This is how Arlidge, Ward & Evans have done in Futures over the years...


Burnham Arlidge

  1Q 2Q 3Q FQR 1R 2R QF SF RU Win
2005 5 4   4            
2006 8 5   3 1          
2007 8 3     1          
2008 6 1 1 5 6 7 1 1    


James Ward


 1Q 2Q 3Q FQR 1R 2R QF SF RU Win
2003
1







2004 6 4
1 1




2005 5 5 1 4 2 2



2006 4 4 1 5 5 2 1 1

2007
1 1
10 4 4 6

2008



8 4 4 5 2 2


Dan Evans


 1Q 2Q 3Q FQR 1R 2R QF SF RU Win
2005 2

1 1




2006 2 1
1 5




2007
1
3 4
1


2008 1

1 6 1 2 3
3


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That's fascinating stuff smile.gif particualrly since, if I understand the way your rankings work correctly, your +/- figures should be reasonably comparable between players at whatever point on the rankings they started out.

Who are the top 6 most improved players in the world? (e.g. I'm wondering if someone like Machado figures in there)

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steven wrote:

That's fascinating stuff smile.gif particualrly since, if I understand the way your rankings work correctly, your +/- figures should be reasonably comparable between players at whatever point on the rankings they started out.

Who are the top 6 most improved players in the world? (e.g. I'm wondering if someone like Machado figures in there)


Yep, that's the way it works. smile

Machado is 43rd.  His run at the beginning of the year was partly due to his underranking due to injury in much of 2006 & 2007 - making him stuck playing Futures.  But he had reached 7 Futures finals & 2 Challenger QFs before this year. He still had a massive improvement this year though.

Good to see the Irish doing well. biggrin

Mitsuhashi's best result prior to this year was reaching the 2nd Rd.  This year he reached 6 QFs, 3 SF, 2 RUs & 2 Wins!

Gilles Simon is the biggest improver of the top guys.
Kei Nishikori of the next batch.

Here's the Top 6 and a load of other players...

   
Ak Rating 2007 Ak Rating 2008
1 Jun Mitsuhashi JPN 230 419 +189
2 Inigo Cervantes ESP 291 478 +188
3 Antonio Sancic CRO 291 470 +179
4 Sergio Gutierrez-Ferrol ESP 291 463 +172
5 Janez Semrajc SLO 334 501 +168
6 Marco Trungelliti ARG 246 404 +158






10 James McGee IRL 237 379 +143
16 Kei Nishikori JPN 559 690 +131
37 Tristan Farron-Mahon IRL 83 186 +103
43 Rui Machado POR 488 589 +101
46 Adrian Mannarino FRA 565 660 +95
60 Colin O'Brien IRL 259 347 +88
80 Gilles Simon FRA 734 812 +79
88 Juan Martin del Potro ARG 756 831 +75
90 Robert Varga HUN 295 370 +75
117 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga FRA 759 827 +68
121 Marin Cilic CRO 710 777 +67
179 Rafael Nadal ESP 897 955 +58
548 Novak Djokovic SRB 871 897 +26






5586
 Roger Federer SUI 1000 945 -55
5646 Marcos Baghdatis CYP 816 759 -57
5732 Harsh Mankad IND 517 439 -77
5733 Komlavi Loglo cry TOG 441 363 -78
5761 David Ferrer ESP 856 764 -92
5771 Xavier Malisse BEL 763 663 -100






5779
 Alejandro Falla COL 722 595 -127
5780(last) 
Angel Alonso-Campos ESP 326 188 -138





-- Edited by Akhenaten at 17:12, 2008-12-04

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I've put Coxy's result into my rankings, and he's now overtaken Slabba!

This is how my rankings compare to the ATP's...

 AKATPDiff
Andy Murray34+1
Alex Bogdanovic237192-45
Richard Bloomfield245325+80
Joshua Goodall343187-156
Daniel Evans373439+66
Jonathan Marray374426+52
James Ward382283-99
Colin Fleming385571+186
Jamie Baker408897+489
Chris Eaton435383-52
Daniel Cox516805+289
Alexander Slabinsky519336-183
Morgan Phillips6391344+705
Kenneth Skupski656628-28
Joshua Milton683717+34
Jamie Delgado749--
Alexander Ward752869+117
Neil Bamford766712-54
Marcus Willis854948+94
Dan Smethurst8721074+202
Matthew Illingworth890695-195
David Rice899875-24
Neil Pauffley9921372+380
Jonathan Kinsella1006888-118
Nick Cavaday10601182+122
Sean Thornley1071792-279
Max Jones10731536+463
Tim Hewitt11381240+102
Burnham Arlidge1147852-295
Tom Burn1191--
Jamie Feaver1242826-416
Maniel Bains12681084-184
Andrew Fitzpatrick13431357+14
Niall Angus1344--
Ross Hutchins14211085-336
Chris Priddle1433--
Ben Pritchard14391432-7
Ashley Watling14671393-74
Tim Bradshaw14811165-316
Kyle Brassington14931266-227
Richard Brooks1519--
Matthew James1550--
Tom Farquharson1585--
...
Myles Blake		-772-
Ian Flanagan-880-
Edward Seator-1070-
Miles Kasiri-1240-
Alexander Farquharson-1277-
Alex Miotto-1393-
Tim Patient-1410-
George Coupland-1724-
Chris Harfield-1840-
Ed Corrie-1870-



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As usual, your numbers seem to match reality more closely than the ATP rankings. There's the odd exception of course, but even a well thought through ranking system is never going to be perfect.

-- Edited by steven on Thursday 26th of March 2009 02:36:31 PM

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how are these rankings done?

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i think it is based on the average ranking of the opponents you beat.

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thus rendering josh goodall far lower in rankings as he gains points from challanger events wi players from 200-400.


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Updated...


2007yo 2008yo 2009yo Now
Andy Murray 7 4 3 4
Alex Bogdanovic 222 246 161 172
James Ward 722 358 319 249
Jamie Baker 269 331 251 304
Daniel Evans 864 492 304 329
Joshua Goodall 385 275 336 386
Richard Bloomfield 327 242 341 393
Colin Fleming - 491 406 398
Dan Smethurst 1518* 823 432 425
Morgan Phillips - (609) 449 475
Chris Eaton 607 446 575 498
Alexander Ward 1933* 1112 793 510
Alexander Slabinsky 602 441 594 529
Dominic Inglot - - 706 520
Marcus Willis 1159* 620 619 574
Daniel Cox 804 766 567 598
Joshua Milton 896 667 691 658
David Rice 1000 796 680 667
Matthew Illingworth 1143 805 772 724
Oliver Golding - 1787* 1240 757
James Marsalek 2107* 2067* 1440* 837
Sean Thornley 1332 1038 909 862
Myles Blake 967 941 - 879*
Neil Pauffley 1419* 972 834 947
Ashley Hewitt - 2207* 1008 948
Burnham Arlidge 1916* 1099 1079 1013
Jamie Feaver 1463 1203 1093 1036
Nick Cavaday - 1187* 1019 1050
Maniel Bains 1562* 1405 1088 1093
Matthew Short 2134* 1953 1518 1138
Andrew Fitzpatrick 1819* 1491 1178 1140
Jack Carpenter - 1808* 971* 1146
Liam Broady - - 1654* 1154
Kyle Brassington 1584 1415 1215 1153
Tim Bradshaw 1431 1458 1153 1180
George Morgan - 1547* 1425* 1241
Lewis Burton - - 1426* 1274
Tom Farquharson - 1557* 1328* 1289
Ben Pritchard 1384 1355 1275 1298
Chris Priddle 1617* 1534 1406 1308
David O'Leary - 1949* 1422* 1347*
Richard Gabb - - 1523* 1338
James Chaudry 2285* 1950* - 1429*
Miles Bugby - 1527* - 1470*
Andrew Bettles - 2193* 2140* 1483*


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My odds for Chiswick... 

not much difference to the seedings! 

They've won a total of 53 futures/satellites titles between them this lot.

Seed Age Titles R2 QF SF F W
1 Guillermo Alcaide 24 4 93% 71% 52% 34% 22.4%
2 Laurent Rochette 22 5 86% 74% 54% 34% 18.2%
3 Joshua Goodall 24 9 66% 52% 35% 21% 11.0%
4 Miloslav Mecir, Jr. 22 2 86% 54% 33% 17% 10.0%
5 Adrien Bossel 23 1 71% 42% 21% 10% 5.3%
Colin Ebelthite 25 6 74% 50% 21% 10% 4.9%
Yuki Bhambri 18 5 88% 41% 21% 10% 4.8%
Daniel Cox 19 3 82% 43% 20% 9% 4.4%
Karan Rastogi 23 6 66% 44% 20% 9% 3.4%
8 J. Vishnu Vardhan 23 1 53% 32% 15% 7% 2.8%
Alexander Ward 20 78% 36% 15% 7% 2.3%
Marcus Willis 19 88% 27% 14% 5% 2.3%
Alexander Slabinsky 24 3 47% 27% 12% 5% 2.0%
James Mcgee 23 34% 23% 12% 5% 2.0%
7 David Rice 21 63% 27% 9% 3% 0.9%
Joshua Milton 20 1 80% 23% 9% 3% 0.8%
6 Nikolaus Moser 20 3 52% 21% 6% 2% 0.6%
Alexandre Folie 20 1 34% 18% 6% 2% 0.5%
Neal Skupski 20 48% 18% 5% 1% 0.4%
Rudy Coco 30 1 29% 11% 3% 1% 0.3%
Alexis Musialek 22 26% 11% 2% 1% 0.2%
Sean Thornley 21 37% 11% 3% 1% 0.1%
Elie Rousset 20 51% 10% 3% 1% 0.1%
Edward Corrie 22 49% 9% 3% 1% 0.1%
Divij Sharan 24 2 14% 7% 2% 0% 0.1%
David Thurner 20 22% 5% 1% 0% 0.0%
Oliver Golding 16 14% 3% 1% 0% 0.0%
James Marsalek 18 18% 4% 1% 0% 0.0%
Maniel Bains 21 7% 2% 0% 0% 0.0%
Antoine Escoffier 18 12% 2% 0% 0% 0.0%
James Chaudry 19 20% 2% 0% 0% 0.0%
Jamie Feaver 23 12% 1% 0% 0% 0.0%







-- Edited by Akhenaten on Tuesday 27th of July 2010 03:40:54 PM

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lol how can players have 0% chance (i take it you mean the chance is so small there would be too many decimals to include?), and i would put a couple of quid on cox if i was given those odds

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Yes, I am guessing these odds flow from Akhenaten's general rankings, and how players match up against their potential opponents, and make no allowance for particular recent good / bad form, so the odds maybe come with a slight health warning  smile

I guess with Cox there may be a concern re the number of matches he has played recently but he still must logically be a much better than 4.4 % chance.

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 27th of July 2010 02:50:48 PM

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Not necessarily - it is a stonger draw than Ilkley and Dublin.

I like how there's 2 Brits in the top 10 favourites but we'll probably be disapponted unless 3 or more reach the QFs

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