Hopefully some of these stats are quite interesting to some of you, but limits on the size of a post (including formatting tags) mean that they are difficult to post on here in easily readable form, so updates are very infrequent.
Hence, I've now set up a British tennis stats page with links to the following stats that will get updated reasonably frequently:
- ranking changes in the year so far - ages and career highs of all ranked players - GB in the end of year rankings from 1973 onwards
As an example, here are the movers stats for 2007 so far:
BRITISH MEN - MOVERS DURING 2007
Provisional (end-2006 to 26 Nov 2007), will be updated at 2007 year-end
+50% means that a player has climbed 50% of the way between
their year-end 2006 ranking and no. 1, e.g. from 201 to 101.
-50% means that the distance between the player's ranking and
no. 1 has increased by 50% since end-2006, e.g. from 101 to 151.
Absolutely brilliant facility - thanks for all this hard work. Is there a table anywhere that puts the players in order of their birthdate with current rankings? I suppose this is easily extractable from another table at a given point but would be a bit more work to keep up all the time. Just interested to monitor how each age group is progressing.
Robert Dee was ranked back in the day when a point was awarded for a first round loss in a challenger (last year that is). He used to "buy" an annual wildcard into some challenger in Mexico I think it was, lose first round and keep himself a world ranking
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goldfish wrote: Is there a table anywhere that puts the players in order of their birthdate with current rankings? I suppose this is easily extractable from another table at a given point but would be a bit more work to keep up all the time. Just interested to monitor how each age group is progressing.
There is now and I've added a couple of links at the bottom of the index page (see first post) - as you'll see, the age tables are just the career high tables sorted by date of birth. The ages table shows even more clearly how exceptional Andy Murray's progress has been!
The sheets are all very ad hoc at the moment. They were created seaprately and the rankings need to be fed into each one separately in order to update them. At the moment, I'd have to recreate the age table from the career high table each time I update the rankings by pasting the career high tables into a blank sheet then sorting by age again. None of that takes very long but it's a bit tedious to do every week!
However, if at some point I get around to making all the tables feed off one data source (i.e. a sheet where I simply paste in the GB ranking lists off the ATP and WTA sites each week) and all the other sheets pick up the new rankings from there, it'll be fairly easy to get weekly updated versions of just about any view of the data you want. That is easy enough to do but will take a bit of time to set up so may not happen immediately.
I wouldn't bother with that if I was still just doing the tables for myself, but if they're likely to be a useful resource for others too (including some at the LTA by all accounts), then it's well worth me doing that at some stage.
By the way, do you think the men's and women's career high / age / % movement this year are best kept separate for men and women or would you prefer to see them combined so that, for example, we can see at a glance who (male or female) has made the biggest % rise this year?
The disadvantage of combining is that it's not exactly a level playing field (e.g. the WTA ranking list is smaller than the ATP one, so all the men with career highs in the 1200-1500 range woudl automatically be behind all of the women in the career highs table; a combined ages table would be skewed by the fact that female players tend to peak younger than male players and so on)
(poll added)
-- Edited by steven at 00:24, 2007-11-27
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It is so sad to see Greg and Martin Lee's name vanish from the rankings. I have followed both of their careers for so long.....it will be even worse when Tim's name drops from the list....if only Tim had four more wins.....
Ask and you will be given! Thanks so much for doing that Steven. Updating that sort of table every so often, even annually, is probably enough, unless as you suggest, you are able to do it all from one table at some stage. I'm sure many people will find all of your stats of great interest.
Personally I would prefer to keep the men's and women's tables separate. The women have to play 3 qualifying tournaments to get a ranking so that would also skew the figures at the bottom end.
More fascinating stuff, Steven! I do so enjoy your stats - and like most of the other early contributors, I'm for keeping the women's and men's tables separate.