Week 29 - Challenger (M) - Manchester

Count Zero · Tennis legend

Week 29 - Challenger (M) - Manchester

Drew · Jul 17, 2007

Thanks for the reports Gareth !!!

Tuesday OOP

10.30am

Daniel EVANS (GBR)
vs
Aisam-Ul-Haq QURESHI (PAK)

Dominik MEFFERT (GER)
vs
James WARD (GBR)

Followed by...

Peter WESSELS (NED)
vs
Joshua GOODALL (GBR)

Rohan BOPANNA (IND)
vs
Lee CHILDS (GBR)

Jamie DELGADO (GBR)
vs
Michael RYDERSTEDT (SWE)

Last on...

Lee CHILDS (GBR) / Jamie DELGADO (GBR) v Luke BOURGEOIS (AUS) / Alun JONES (AUS)

forsake · Social player

Yea thnkx 4 tht report Bro! I hope u can go tomorow n c Aisam in action n give us some details...Tht would b awesome! :)

Shhh · Challenger level

gazzpash wrote:

2 things did slightly get to me. Dyce, Evans and Cox are obviously all good mates, which was good to see team spirit. But after their games they seemed to not really care that much. They should be coming off thinking how can I improve, where do I go next. It seemed more like a hobby than a living. It's not their fault and I have no qualms with them, its the coaching.

-- Edited by gazzpash at 22:48, 2007-07-17

First of all, great feedback gazzpash, I am sure all who read it appreciate it. I know what you mean by the above comment. I have been to Surbiton, Nottingham and Felixstowe this year. During the game the players lose their tempers if things go wrong yet otherwise, often appear to be going through the motions to a defeat....not really fighting. Off the court theres a lot of "hanging out with friends" type behaviour. Its easy to wonder whats wrong with that but, I agree with what I think you're saying, you'd think players would be a bit more intense for longer. A bit like a boxer before a fight.....well 10% of that anyway!

It does seem very relaxed and social, on each occassion I have had to take time off work and fight traffic to get there and I seem more "up" for the results than they do. Very little attention is paid to other matches by players as they are often chilling.....its hard to describe but, coming from other sports it not quite what I expect to see.

-- Edited by Shhh at 07:13, 2007-07-18

forsake · Social player

The matches start soon... Howz the weather lookin???

RobC · All-time great

not ideal: http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=manchester

Count Zero · Tennis legend

i have also wondered about the players not paying much attention during the other matches.

i think this comes down to them not being professioanl in all apsects of the game/life.

this was how gilbert succeeded, he watched every match he could and noted the information, as you never know when you will be playing that guy. he was never a talented player as such, but over achived cause of the dedication and professioanlisim in all aspects.

esp at challenger level etc youre not boing to be able tot pick up a dvd somewhere to see how a player plays.

Drew · Jul 18, 2007

Peter from the LTA reckons the whole event will take place indoors.

gazzpash · Club Coach

Count Zero wrote:

i have also wondered about the players not paying much attention during the other matches.

i think this comes down to them not being professioanl in all apsects of the game/life.

this was how gilbert succeeded, he watched every match he could and noted the information, as you never know when you will be playing that guy. he was never a talented player as such, but over achived cause of the dedication and professioanlisim in all aspects.

esp at challenger level etc youre not boing to be able tot pick up a dvd somewhere to see how a player plays.

That was something else that surprised me - nobody really watching a match where they will play the winner. When I play my matches on Thursdays, we play one pairs first and I use the warm up to judge their strengths and weaknesses. I then dont walk off after the game, I watch the pairing I will play next. Due to not being the best player I need to know my opponents weak spots.

Again, this is not down to the players, its their management not training them as a professional.

Had to come to office this morning, but still have fingers crossed will make way down later

RobC · All-time great

gazzpash wrote:

Again, this is not down to the players, its their management not training them as a professional.

.....to an extent, yes, but if you're a player and you want to be the best, and you have the opportunity, surely you go up to a Murray, a Henman, a Gilbert and you ask them what they do to beat people, you read Brad's book, you note what the top guys do and you copy them, you ask your coach why he's not teaching you this.

forsake · Social player

Any early updates on Aisam's match??? :)

Count Zero · Tennis legend

i dont think it is the coaches i think its the individual players, when you choose to be a pro sportsman then imo 100% of your life has to be dedicated to it, not like some office job where you can clock off at 6 and not have a care in the world.

I have spoken at lenth to one of Alex coahces on this, he was telling me that in the past alex wasnt professional enough in all aspects of his life, esp he didnt work hard enough (alex thought he was, but now he realises he has to step it up to another level).

forsake · Social player

No results... cry

RobC · All-time great

I couldn't have put it better myself, Count. Hopefully the lads will get a chance to talk with Boggo and pick that up from him: However hard you think you're working now, you have to work a lot harder and be more professional......

Count Zero · Tennis legend

It was a very interesting discussion i had, a lot went into detail about alex which i wont repeat of course, he he also had a lot to say about tennis in the uk in general. a lot of the problem comes down to the fact that almost eveyone is only in it for themselves, and thats their primary concern, making sure they look goo etc

He has been invloved in scheems tobuild cheapish indoor courts across london, fully fianced but blocked for political reason