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I hope Naomi manages to bring the tie back to 1-1, hopefully Nigel Sears does his job to keep her nerves down and at least it's not a case of everything hanging on her in her first match.

Shame to see Elena outclassed like that but I keep forgetting they're playing on clay! (How is the surface decided in Fed cup?)

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If Naomi does win, then its good for her. but overall, its a shame they could beat Luxembourg yesterday cry.gif ah well, at least they retain their status for next year!

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I am waiting for Sheddie to start a pessimistic discussion on how it's too early to say whether Ula is going to be a top 100 player in the future or not. smile.gif

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And there I was foolishly trying to get the discussion back on track! biggrin.gif Oh well. (For anyone wondering I gave up before i even began in the Cardiff thread!)

Is Naomi playing as we speak? If so any chance of a score from somewhere, is Sheddie getting them?

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I dont know if this has been said but Luxembourg bt Bulgaria 2-1 so i think GB have no chance of qualifying?

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I think Naomi lost because Poland lead GB 2-0 apparently.

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yep confirmation of that

Radwanska def Naomi Cavaday 6:3 6:2

not unexpected but still disappointing.

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Thanks Mkk, as you say not unexpected but still. cry.gif

Is that it for Fed cup until next year then?

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The Panda Bear wrote:

Have you gone mad? confused.gif She's one of the most talented players out there (and it's not just my opinion) and won against Camerin in straights when she was 15. You need to be incredibly good to beat Paszek, because Paszek is capable of beating Sharapova, Mauresmo etc.


Watch her crack the top 100 in twelve months time.



Pfft, I'm a realist not a pessimist....of course I think she'll break the top 100, though it'll take her longer than 12 months wink.gif  

we weren't talking about her talent, we were talking about whether she'd beat Domachowska, atm I think that Domachowska would beat her...she's a class act, you need to be to get as high as no 37. I say atm also because Ula has been a bit disappointing results-wise this year on the womens tour...no idea why you think she'd beat Domachowska 1 and 1.

ummm, what on earth is this about Paszek being capable of beating Sharapova and Mauresmo ??????   She's nowhere near capable of doing that, she got beat 1 and 3 by Zvonereva and 0 and 2 by Na Li this year

 



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She was a set and a break up against Henin and then choked because she was playing a top player in a big stadium for the first time. If she can match Henin, I am sure that she can beat Sharapova. It seems unreal that a 16 year old can play that well, trust me! She'll win Slams if she gets some consistency and sheds some weight.

Domachowska is nowhere near her top 40 self and Ula was going through a bad patch. Players outside the top 150 are just cannon fodder for world class Juniors.



6-1 6-1 may be too much, I agree. rofl.gif But she won't concede more than 4 games if she is at her 80%.

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imoen wrote:

Is that it for Fed cup until next year then?



Yes unfortunately.....though do we still have some meaningless match tomorrow against a team from one of the groups ?

It's really tough to move up through the groups, to get to world group 2 you need (1) to come top of your mini-Euro African zone group  (2) win a playoff on Sat, and that's tough with players like Jankovic, Hantuchova even at this level !
(3) then win a world group 2 playoff in July

we've got a strong enough doubles team atm, the doubles rubber is virtually a banker every time. we just need a classy top 100 singles player and a top 150 no 2 to move up.  Hopefully Naomi will be that top 100 player in the future, and maybe Bally/Anne/Stoopy/Mel  can fill that 3rd role....2008 may still come too early for us, 2009 will probably be our best chance of moving up since the days of Sam Smith and Louise Latimer

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That sounds even tougher to reach the top than in the Davis Cup which is bad enough.

Although the idea of everything happening in one week must help with scheduling and all those problems with surgace change Andy was talking about.

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The Panda Bear wrote:

She was a set and a break up against Henin and then choked because she was playing a top player in a big stadium for the first time. If she can match Henin, I am sure that she can beat Sharapova. It seems unreal that a 16 year old can play that well, trust me! She'll win Slams if she gets some consistency and sheds some weight.

Domachowska is nowhere near her top 40 self and Ula was going through a bad patch. Players outside the top 150 are just cannon fodder for world class Juniors.



6-1 6-1 may be too much, I agree. rofl.gif But she won't concede more than 4 games if she is at her 80%.

-- Edited by The Panda Bear at 13:51, 2007-04-20



Panda Bear, I can only assume you're referring to her chances in a modelling contest ??  In that case I certaintly agree, she'd beat Mauresmo by a mile...she's one of the best lookers on the tour for sure

If you're referring to the tennis, how can you make an absurd prediction like that based on just 1 match !  Surely you need a string of results like that against top 15 players to suggest she has a chance against Sharapova and Mauresmo who are elite top 5 and have been like that for a number of years...both have been world no 1 and won 2 slams !!!!  Even with the talent she has I don't think the chubby 16 year old would stand a chance against either...Sharapova and Mauresmo would simply outhit her, something like 1 and 3...she'd get 4 games at most. Have you seen how hard they hit the ball compared to Pascek ?

OK she was a set and a break up against Henin but this was an incredibly rusty Henin, still obviously struggling emotionally from her marriage break-up who had an absolute shocker, I watched the match. Pascek should have put her away 3 and 4 that day, Henin was so bad - spraying balls all over the place...i think Naomi Cavaday would have been a set and a break up against Henin playing like that.

Henin is not like a Sharapova or a Serena Williams who have the weapons to hit/serve their way out of trouble even on a really bad day...Henin doesn't have those big shots, she relies on her fantastic timing, anticipation, speed, tactical astuteness and all-court game to win matches....she's won so many slams because she's the most all-round player on tour and the best tactician.   It's a testament to what an incredible player she is, that those bad days come few and far between which is why she's had the amount of success she has had. But on a really, really bad day she's in trouble, even against someone like Pascek

RE Ula:  She is  going through a bad patch, that's why I think Domachowska would beat her especially on clay. I wouldn't say that players outside top 150 are cannon fodder, aswell as getting hammered by a French hacker outside the top 500, Ula also lost 4 and 2 to Parmentier earlier this year.     

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Shame to see Elena outclassed like that but I keep forgetting they're playing on clay! (How is the surface decided in Fed cup?)

I dunno how the surface has been decided...ITF just seem to put it automatically on clay in Bulgaria every year furious.gif  I think thed Fed Cup format should be altered to make it more like Davis Cup, though I do like the world group 2 idea

 



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Paszek is hardly modelling material. confused.gif

And Paszek definitely has a lot of power. Nowhere near top 5 players now, but give her till the end of the year and she'll get there. I personally think that she can beat top 10 players when she's having a good day, but I can't prove it till she does. hmm.gif

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