Indian Wells Doubles

GC77 · County player

RE: Indian Wells Doubles

scoobsuk · Club Coach

imoen wrote:

yay! I love it when Brits play doubles together.

Although, is it bad to want Jamie to do much much better than the Henman/Murray pairing so Lloyd doesn't decide to overlook Jamie in the DC.

Nope - I agree - we need at least 1 dedicated DC doubles player to lighten the load.

scoobsuk · Club Coach

GC77 wrote:

For a masters series event both pairings have landed pretty good draws...

Indeed - and it's a seriously good draw too, with Nadal/Lopez playing, Federer/Allegro are also in there. Gonzalez is in there, Robredo, Nalbandian with Canas, Djokovic, Berdych...
Lots of top talent on display.

I doubt there's been a doubles draw this strong for singles players in years.

aria81 · Club Coach

Great having two sets of Brits to support. It's a shame that Auck's couldn't have picked up a partner because it would have given JL a headache in terms of selection but I suppose that would have just been greedy.

For Andy - playing doubles with Tim has got to help improve his volleying and for Jamie and Booty, well they are obviously looking a little further than that. :) Just a shame the doubles won't be shown with there being that many good players in the draw - that's one of the things I enjoy about the Wimbledon coverage, getting to watch the doubles.

-- Edited by aria81 at 21:59, 2007-03-09

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Great news!

Like others have said, I rather hope Andy and Tim don't do that well; for one thing I don't want them to play DC doubles! I would rather Andy has a rest day on the doubles day, and that applies to Tim too if he is playing singles.

Come to that I don't want Andy playing doubles here at all really - I would rather he saved himself to go deep in the singles. . .

However, GO Jamie and Eric!!

goldenboy · Club Coach

i can't believe so many people don't want andy and tim to do particularly well!

personally, I want them to win the tournament, and play (and beat) murray / butorac in the final.

2 generations of british tennis coming together to play doubles - not going to happen too often in the future, if ever! so lets get behind them for what could be great viewing!

jamie murray's time will undoubtedly come in the DC - he's only young, and henman is nearing the end of his career, so if henman/murray succeeds or not, i am sure jamie murray will be part of the future of the GB davis cup team.

ultimately, this may be the final or penultimate season for henman, and him in action together with the rising star or british, and indeed global, tennis is surely not to be missed!

go tim and andy!

-- Edited by goldenboy at 23:34, 2007-03-09

GC77 · County player

Preview of doubles first round now posted here (on Britishtennis.net)

Doubles live ranking table now updated here (on Britishtennis.net)

GC77 · County player

I personally think it is great that Andy and Tim have paired up again and hope they go far here. Obviously we don't know Lloyd's thinking about the Davis Cup doubles pairing but I have a feeling that Jamie is a shoe in, and it will be either Andy or Tim for the other place, no matter how well the all Brit pairing do this week (I think he'll rest at least one of them for reverse singles seeing as he can now rely on Jamie to compete at the top level of doubles).

GC77 · County player

If anyone wants a "what if" for Jamie, Andy and Tim this week let me know and I'll attempt to put one together!! (For Andy and Tim it will be estimated based on other players current doubles ranking)

GC77 · County player

Indian Wells "what if" for Jamie

Jamie currently WR43 on the latest ATP doubles rankings (10th with Butorac in the race)
Jamie currently WR43 on the latest live ranking (8th= with Butorac in the race)

If Jamie loses in the last 16:

His highest possible ranking is 43.

He can be overtaken by -
Lindstedt if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Goldstein if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Stepanek if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Benneteau if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Oli Rochus if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Nieminen if he wins Indian Wells.

His lowest possible ranking is again 48.

If Jamie loses in the quarters:

His highest possible ranking is now 39.

He can be overtaken by -
Thomas if he reaches the quarters in Indian Wells.
Lindstedt if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Goldstein if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Stepanek if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Benneteau if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Oli Rochus if he wins Indian Wells.

His lowest possible ranking is 42.

If Jamie loses in the semis:

His highest possible ranking is now 35.

He can be overtaken by -
Pala if he reaches the quarters in Indian Wells.
Allegro if he reaches semis in Indian Wells.
Thomas if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Lindstedt if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Goldstein if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Oli Rochus if he wins Indian Wells.

His lowest possible ranking is 39.

If Jamie loses in the final:

His highest possible ranking is now 28.

He can be overtaken by -
Kohlmann if he reaches the quarters in Indian Wells.
Llodra if he reaches the last 16 in Indian Wells.
Levinsky if he reaches the quarters in Indian Wells.
Friedl if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Cermak if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Pavel if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Pala if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Allegro if he reaches final in Indian Wells.
Thomas if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Goldstein if he wins Indian Wells.

His lowest possible ranking is 34.

If Jamie wins Indian Wells:

His highest possible ranking is now 26.

He can be overtaken by -
Clement if he reaches the last 16 in Indian Wells.
Kohlmann if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Llodra if he reaches the semis in Indian Wells.
Friedl if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.
Pavel if he reaches the final in Indian Wells.

His lowest possible ranking is 28.

-- Edited by GC77 at 05:16, 2007-03-12

GC77 · County player

Jamie/Butorac play Nadal/Lopez 5th match on Stadium Court 3 (I cant recall offhand if Sky cover this court or only Stadium 1 and 2 on their interactive service) after 3 mens singles and a womens singles (1st match starts at 10am local time/5pm UK time). So we're looking at somewhere around midnight UK time.

Andy/Tim play Chela/Prieto 5th match on court 6 again after 3 mens singles and a womens singles. So again somewhere around midnight UK time.

Jamie targets Skoch, Prieto, Allegro, Pavel and nearest threat Coetzee all play today.

Aucks threat Reynolds lost in the final of Kyoto.

GC77 · County player

Indian Wells "what if" for Andy and Tim.

(Based on other players rankings at start of week)

Out in round 1 - Andy stays at 109, Tim at 512
Out in last 16 - Andy rises to 95, Tim 339
Out in quarters - Andy rises to 89, Tim 269
Out in semis - Andy rises to 77, Tim 186
Lose in final - Andy rises to 63, Tim 121
Win Indian Wells - Andy rises to 54 and British no 2, Tim to 93 and British no 4.

GC77 · County player

Challenger draws are starting to be made -

James threat Reynolds plays in Ho Chi Minh where a final appearance would lift him above James.

Sarajevo draw should be out around noon today (Sunday).
Bogota draw should be out around 8pm today (Sunday).
Sunrise draw should be out around 10pm tomorrow (Monday), with hopefully Aucks included.

As an aside, Sunrise singles qualies draw (Boggo) should be out around 2am tomorrow morning (Monday early).

Salmon · Tennis legend

2-2 in Jamie's match. One break has been exchanged.

Salmon · Tennis legend

5-4 to Jamie/Eric with the enemies serving.