Predict The Shanghai Field.

Count Zero · Tennis legend

RE: Predict The Shanghai Field.

Salmon · Tennis legend

Good stuff from you as always!

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Montana Doug wrote:

steven wrote:

LOL I was going to put Tigger too and see how long it took people to realise that I was joking.

I was wondering whether anyone would think it was necessary to make it clear that it was Andy Murray, not Jamie they were talking about. Stranger things have happened! (come to think of it, no they haven't )

Hey now....who said I was joking....the man just took four months off and beat a top 70 player 1&2....at his age maybe a long break is just what his body needed and he will have a great year.....missing out down under might be tough....but still.....I can believe....lol

Am I right in thinking that you automatically have a place in the masters if you win one of the grand slams? (I know that happened in the doubles 2005 when Huss/Moodie won Wimbledon but finished low as they hardly played together all year) If so then All Tim has to do it win Wimbledon. Wouldn't that be great! (beating Andy in the finals obviously - Andy will have taken Federer out in the semis)

-- Edited by imoen at 23:09, 2007-02-27

VSandhi20 · Futures qualifying

I dont think so. if i remember correctly, Safin won the AO in 2005 but had an awful year after that so i dont think he automatically qualified for the masters cup, unless im wrong.

Salmon · Tennis legend

4:30 in the morning is hardly the time for searching through the Rulebook, but from what I remember, you have to finish inside the top 20 if you want to be selected on grounds of winning a Slam.

Not very sure...

Count Zero · Tennis legend

wasnt it something about gs winners becoming the 1st alts?

Salmon · Tennis legend

VSandhi20 wrote:

I dont think so. if i remember correctly, Safin won the AO in 2005 but had an awful year after that so i dont think he automatically qualified for the masters cup, unless im wrong.

He finished the year at number 5.

steven · Tennis legend

The order of priority is:

- the top 7 in the Race
- up to 2 grand slam winners ranked between 8 and 20 in ranking order
- players positioned 8 and below in the Race, in order

This means that if there are 2 GS winners outside the top 7 (highly unlikely given that there are 1000 points for a GS win), then the higher-ranked of the two gets a DA and the lower-ranked of the two becomes 1st Alt.

The only time I can remember someone getting in as a GS winner when they would not have got in otherwise was when Gaudio won the FO.

Maybe Safin was injured at TMC time in the year when he won the AO?

And yes to Doug, I was very, very impressed with the bouncy tiger's amazing first match back.

-- Edited by steven at 00:35, 2007-02-28

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Thanks for the clarification on the rules. I'd highly surprised if someone managed to win a Grand Slam and not finish inside the top 20 (baring being out for the rest of the year through injury I suppose).

Sheddie · administrator

Count Zero wrote:

Murray
Nadal
Roddick
blake
haas
davydenko
lubijic
Boggo

to those with qucik sight you may notice i have swapped boggo for a well known player.

I don't get this

Sheddie · administrator

My top 8:

Federer, Nadal, Roddick, Blake, Murray, Ljubicic, Davydenko, Gonzo
Alts...Djokovic, Haas, Baghdatis, Youzhny

-- Edited by ultimateshedman at 21:47, 2007-02-28

Sheddie · administrator

ForeverDelayed wrote:
Hewitt is still one of the top 8 players in the world, and he plays well in the big events. As long as he gets a decent draw in the Grand Slams, and turns up for the Masters Series, he should be good enough to get at least close to the top 8

I've always been a Hewitt fan but I don't think he'll get back in the top 8 unless he changes his game. Too many talented youngsters moving up who are harder hitters, Hewitt's game has always been based on his consistency, speed and aggression but there are now players who can match him on that plus have bigger weapons. There's the old guard of Federer, Roddick, Dayvdenko, Blake, Ljubicic, Haas, Ancic plus young guys like Nadal, Baghdatis, Gonzo, Murray, Djokovic, Berdych, Youzhny, Gasquet who are filling the top 15. Hewitt will always be a threat but I can't see him beating many of those guys consistently throughout the year with his game how it is at the moment especially as he's not going to be highly seeded so will be on a collision course with some of the big guns early on.

I think he needs to revert to how he played at the AO 2005. In the off season, he'd put in a punishing fitness regime and had really filled out, his biceps were like Nadal's. That really paid off as his groundstrokes and serve had so much extra bite in that tournament, enabling him to beat the likes of Nadal, Nalbandian and Roddick. It also paid off throughout the year, he had a great season making Wimbledon and USO semis.

In 2006, he seemed to have lost that muscle...I think he needs to put it back on again and if he does then he can be top 10 again for sure, maybe top 5 who knows.

I don't think that Baghdatis will have such a good season. I think that he needs to go for his shots a bit more and be more aggressive to remain consistently in the top 10, he tends to be a bit too conservative from the baseline. Haas has done well so far but he always does at this time of the year, doesn't tend to do so well in the clay, grass and indoor seasons so those will be big for him this year.

Sheddie · administrator

imoen wrote:

Thanks for the clarification on the rules. I'd highly surprised if someone managed to win a Grand Slam and not finish inside the top 20 (baring being out for the rest of the year through injury I suppose).

Yeah I doubt it would happen unless it's like in 2002 when Johansson and Costa took 2 of the slams

johnnylad · Tennis legend

ultimateshedman wrote:

Count Zero wrote:

Murray
Nadal
Roddick
blake
haas
davydenko
lubijic
Boggo

to those with qucik sight you may notice i have swapped boggo for a well known player.
I don't get this

Boggo for Federer. We can dream can't we?

Sheddie · administrator

Oh I see, lol. I was thinking down the wrong lines and wondering whether Boggo was a nickname/abbreviation for another top player

As Count likes to say, the shedman can be a wee bit slow on the uptake