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RE: ATP Las Vegas 2007.


Does anybody know what is better for Henman to reach last 8?Probably Mahut bt Lopez?

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I think that it would be better for Tim is Mahut beat Lopez in three sets. As that way if Lopez then beats Tim they'll all be on one win each and, so long as Lopez concedes more than 3 games to Tim, it'll be Tim who goes through...I think.

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Knowing as Lopez seems to have lost all interest in tennis, Henman will find it pretty difficult to lose against him.

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I think Lopez will beat Mahut. Lopez's serve can be pretty dangerous and he is more experinced player than Mahut.Obviously both are struggling to find their rhythm though.



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Mahut takes first set 6:3 against Lopez.

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Not a surprise, Lopez loses almost every match he plays these days.

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But second set for Lopez 6:3. Topsy-turvy match.

-- Edited by Ghosting at 23:05, 2007-02-28

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Imoen, does it not go to % of sets won if they are all tied???

In which case, assuming that Mahut beats Lopez, Henman would have to win a set to go through.

If Lopez were to beat Henman in straights he would have 60%, Henman 50%, Mahut 40%.
If Lopez won in 3 he would have 50%, Henman 60%, Mahut 40%.

Cant remember if that is right, but i think it is.

I guess if Lopez beats Mahut it solves the problem!!

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It was percentage of sets when the X Man went through in Delray Beach. Or so Arka thinks.

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Round robin format is totaly tomfoolery. It makes tennis rudiculous. I don't know who prefers it. Even players are confused.

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Lopez beats Mahut 3:6 6:3 7:6.

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Mahut leading 2-1 with MBin the final set tiebreak; Lopez gets the break back, 2-2, Lopez 3-2; 4-25-2; running away now....5-3; 6-3; 3 MPs for Lopez, Lopez wins in 3 sets

Simple fact is that if Henman win against Lopez in 2 comfortable sets, then hes through. But with Lopez winning more games, he just needs to win one set to got through! thats my guess anyway!

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Nobody knows how that stupid system really works. Hopefully Tim will beat Lopez in straight sets and go through.

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Round Robin: Determining Group Winners

Exclusively for the hard-core tennis fan, here is an explanation of how a player is declared the winner of his round-robin group.

Each player will play every other player in his group.

All matches will be the best of three (3) tie-break sets.
The 8 group winners advance to the final rounds.

The final standing of each group shall be determined by the first of the following methods that apply:
- Greatest number of wins;
- Greatest number of matches completed (a retirement does not count as a completed match for the retiring player; it does however, count as a completed match for the opponent of the retiring player).
- Head-to-head results if only two (2) players are tied, or if three (3) players are tied, then:
If three (3) players each have one (1) win, a player having played less than two (2) matches is automatically eliminated and the player advancing to the final rounds is the winner of the match of the two (2) players tied with 1-1 records; or
Highest percentage of sets won; or
Highest percentage of games won.
If any of the above produces one (1) superior player, then this is the winner of the group; or, if it produces one (1) inferior player, and the two remaining players are tied, the tie between those two (2) players shall be broken by head-to-head record.
- If ties still exist after the above procedures, then the player with the highest ranking shall be deemed the winner of the group.
- In applying the tie-breaking procedures, a conduct default or retirement shall count as a straight set win or loss. However, games won or lost in matches with the defaulting or retiring player shall not be counted in calculating percentage of games won.

- A player who retires during the Round Robin because of illness or injury may continue in the competition if cleared to play by the Tournament Doctor.

- Any player who is defaulted pursuant to the ATP Code during the Round Robin competition shall be defaulted from all other matches in the event and the ATP default provisions shall apply, except for the following circumstances:
The loss of physical condition; or
Dress and equipment.
- Any player who withdraws from any Round Robin match after the first round shall not be eligible for the final rounds.
- Any player who withdraws, or is withdrawn, after only one (1) Round Robin match may be replaced by an alternate player and that player may be eligible for the final rounds.
- Alternates for the Main Draw Elimination Round shall be the Lucky-Losers from the qualifying event.
- Alternates for the Round Robin competition shall be the Lucky-Losers from the Main Draw Elimination Round.
- There is no substitution in the final rounds.

It's worse than Math.

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This is all crazy....must be a simple fact that the winner goes through no matter what....after all if someone wins two matches how can't they go through? You only need all the above if Mahut had won and then Lopez had beaten Henman....

I don't think it will matter much anyway....Tim in two comfortable sets for me....6-4, 6-3....

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