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RE: Andy Murray


Report on the outcome of the match from the Beeb.



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Not at all promising, although the reports suggest that his movement was better towards the end of the set. At the moment, it looks like each of Andy, Djoko, Rafa , Stan, Nishikori and Raonic could all still be unfit come Melbourne. Which is disappointing and worrying. There must be no better time than now for some of the undercard to take centre stage and I include Kyle in that. Time to step up to the plate !

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Watched the match from 0-2 and thought he improved as the match went on. Clearly nervous and not wanting to risk aggravating injury he was definitely holding back which is not the Andy we know and admire. But it was only an exhibition and good on him for stepping up to the plate and play when Novak pulled out.

The later news that he was on a plane to Oz is a good sign and suggests he is planning to play Brisbane but the 5 setters of Melbourne might be a step too far. We can only wait and see...

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Well he is playing Brisbane Plays Harrison or Leo Mayer

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To no great surprise MTF report that Djokovic is out of Doha. So Andy is the one 'big 4' representative in week 1.



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Re Andy, I see references to mvement issues, particularly early on, but no specific hip or limp mentions.

So does the movement appear to be more part of general rustiness and getting back into match play ?

He's clearly behind the eight ball as far as the start of this season goes, but do folk see much more serious concerns ?



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Watched the highlights of the ex match, let's not mess around, Bautista Agut felt sorry for Andy and did not want to bagel him, so let him have a few games.

Andy was really rusty, as can be expected. He will do well to win any ATP matches at either Brisbane or AO.

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Andy on playing at "30 in the world level" (from the Beeb).



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Andy "considers surgery after withdrawing from Brisbane International with hip injury".  I know everyone derides Bouncy as a commentator, but he's been urging Andy to take the plunge for a while, having had his own right hip completely replaced four years ago & therefore experienced personally the kind of freedom from pain that the op can bring.



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Report on BBC Scotland news regarding Andy withdrawing from Brisbane showed footage of him at airport with a minder, Andy had a very pronounced limp just hope he does the right thing with his body he does not look fit to compete.



-- Edited by scottie1 on Tuesday 2nd of January 2018 02:33:03 PM

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I know Andy has said he sees surgery as a last resort and that the doctors have not given him any guarantees if he does go under the knife but I think he needs to bite the bullet. He has had almost 6 months of rehab and there seems to be little indication that his condition is improving at all, I cannot believe that more of the same is going to produce the result he is looking for at this point.

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theemptyvessel wrote:

I know Andy has said he sees surgery as a last resort and that the doctors have not given him any guarantees if he does go under the knife but I think he needs to bite the bullet. He has had almost 6 months of rehab and there seems to be little indication that his condition is improving at all, I cannot believe that more of the same is going to produce the result he is looking for at this point.


 Agreed - bite the bullet, write off the first half of the season and come back stronger and hopefully fit. There is no evidence, you are right, to suggest rehab will improve things if it has effectively failed to date...  



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There's a series of articles in today's Times about Andy's dilemma, including a new one by Stu Fraser under the heading "Surgery could spell the end of Murray's time at tennis's top table", which makes for depressing reading (*), & this relatively short one by one of this country's best known ballet dancers, Wayne Sleep:

Hip surgery is severe, but Andy Murray can recover like [sic] I did, says Wayne Sleep

Wayne Sleep, one of the country's most celebrated dancers, had a hip replacement and warns Andy Murray that it may not end his career

First of all it's like a miracle that's happened the next day after the operation because the pain is gone. You're in such intense pain you cant even reach to put your sock on. I had to have elastics put in my lace up shoes because I couldn't reach to bend down to put them on and that's how severe it was. When it started to interfere with not just my career but my life, I had to do something about it.

Then you have to hire furniture because you can't do things like sit on the loo. You're not allowed to take your leg to 90 degrees or else the hip could pop out of place. You have to raise your bed if it's very low to the floor because you can't get out of it. And you have to sleep with a pillow between your legs on your back which was the worst thing for me, because I dance in my sleep. So I had to take quite an intense painkiller to knock me out because I was so scared of going onto my side which could again displace it.

Six weeks on my back trying to sleep was hell. But it's lovely hiring the furniture because when they took it away I knew my hip was getting better.

They encourage you to start walking as soon as possible but you must not overdo it. You have to obey all the rules and I am adamant about this. If you do not obey the rules you could be in big trouble.

If you have something to aim for, like I did with the performance, you work extra hard to get back. So I went to physio the first day after six weeks which is recommended and also started swimming, but you can't do breaststroke or freestyle, you have to do dog paddling, because if you start stretching your leg it can again go wrong.

I must emphasise that if [Murray is] going to have [hip surgery] done you really need to obey the rules but I suppose he's good at that in tennis. We''e very disciplined you see, so it kicks in, so that will be useful. My surgeon was slightly sceptical about me being able to do the performance but said it was up to me.

If it's really done well you should have to no problem. But I must say, I did put on lots of weight because I couldn't do exercise before the operation, or during recovery, like [sic] I normally do. But now I'm still jumping. I would recommend it.

 

(*) SF's article suggests that Andy's refusal to rule out an appearance at the Oz Open is admirable, but that "it would surely be wise for him to fly home to the United Kingdom and take stock without running the risk of further pain in the right hip which has plagued him since he woke up feeling stiff the morning after his five-set French Open semi-final defeat by Stan Wawrinka last June" & that "the more Murray tries to push his hip through pain, the more you fear for the lasting impact it will have".  It concludes that he has little option but to choose surgery, adding that it "sadly feels like make or break for the career of one of Great Britain's greatest ever sportsmen".  cry  Lots of sympathy offered in quotes from fellow players, too.

 

 



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Got to feel for Andy.

Not sure at all whether not ruling himself out of the Aussie Open is admirable / stubborn / stupid / combination of all or what. Then no sort of medical expert on what he's potentially doing to his hip, surgery or no surgery.

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One of the articles I read today also suggested that Ivan lendl quite possibly left his role as Andy's coach because they disagreed over the route forward...Ivan obviously supported the surgery route and presumably felt his position was compromised by Andy going a different path.

Which brings me to Jamie Delgado and the other Team Murray members. I dont know how they get remunerated, but hopefully they get at least a base salary whilst Andy isnt playing? Dont know whether Andy would top that up but if they are losing out on percentages of prize money (which is how I think they would normally get compensated) then presumably Jamie and the others will be losing out significantly. Hopefully none of them are struggling at the moment and/or Andy is taking care of them in some way?

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