Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: Website / stats pages issues


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 34280
Date:
Website / stats pages issues


The GB top 25 tables and some of the other stats pages are almost ready to go again but our web host (webs.com, formerly known as "freewebs" for those who've been around here for a while!) seems to be having all kinds of issues since being taken over by another company during the period when I was computerless. It turns out that the current problems are being documented (somewhat maliciously but also, as far as I can tell, pretty accurately) by the Twitter account @BoycottWebs.

They've always been a bit rubbish but never quite bad enough to make it seem worth the hassle of moving to another provider until now.

The most relevant problem for us is that FTP access to the site no longer works, which effectively means I can't upload anything. Their interface does offer a proprietary upload function (which is much more fiddly than FTP even when it works) but even their own multi-file uploader no longer works. The only option that still works is to use their single file upload function for one file at a time (remembering to delete the files I want to replace first since there's no overwrite option) and that's not sustainable for a site like ours with regularly-updated multi-file tables. 

I first noticed the problem when I tried to set up FTP from my new computer in the US 2 weeks ago, assumed I must be getting something wrong or there was a temporary fault, but when it still wouldn't work a couple of days later (10 Feb), I tweeted Webs support @WebsCares about it. No reply, but I noticed that they were telling other people to email a support address, so on 16 Feb I emailed that address.

Still no reply by yesterday, so I tweeted them again and they finally replied (11 days after my first message) and said it was a known fault, asking me to report details on a web page they'd set up for that purpose to aid their investigations. I did so, adding at the end: "... please let me know when this will be fixed and if it won't be before the end of this week, please let me know how to claim a refund of my subscription because I will have to make arrangements to move to a hosting service that works."

They replied today that it is unlikely to be fixed this week and I should contact their billing team. Full marks for (belated) honesty, I guess, but ... Wow - web hosting is their business and after FTP access has been down for at least 11 days, they don't even think it will be back up before the end of this week. Er?!

So, that's what I'll do. I don't know how long it will take to get a refund of the premium access sub from their billing department and I also need to ensure that I've got (or can recreate) copies of all the files that are currently on the site before it gets wiped and download any that are missing.

Once I'm sure I'm going to get a refund of the remaining webs sub, I am intending to use the web space provider I used to use for my UK company and my plan is to get some tables up there in the next week or two, make sure it works then get all the other files that are on the old site onto there too, then finally get the britishtennis.net domain transferred to the new provider.

I don't know how long all this will take (and I've got a lot of other things on my plate at the moment too, so some delays may be due to me) but all you really need to know is that sometime soon, britishtennis.net might be completely unavailable for a day or two but it shouldn't be anything to worry about.

The forum itself is hosted by a completely different provider (Activeboard) and will remain up unless Activeboard itself goes down, so if you tend to access the forum via the britishtennis.net home page, it's probably worth bookmarking the forum itself too so that you can access it easily even if britishtennis.net is down for a bit.



__________________

GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!

GB top 25s (ranks, whereabouts) & stats - http://www.britishtennis.net/stats.html

Jan


Hall of fame

Status: Offline
Posts: 7635
Date:

Oh dear more hassle for you Steven.
Thanks for all your efforts - I hope there aren't too many more complications along the way.

__________________


Futures qualifying

Status: Offline
Posts: 1747
Date:

I'd also like to thank the board's administrators. Keeping things running smoothly takes effort and it can easily be taken for granted.

Cheers again!



__________________


Grand Slam Champion

Status: Offline
Posts: 4096
Date:

Yep, thanks for all your efforts Steven and the Administrators....you get a Brit award from me :)

__________________


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 20182
Date:

If the web host is that bad, then the sooner you can change the better.

The information you provide is really usefull, and your efforts are greatly appreciated.

__________________


All-time great

Status: Offline
Posts: 5131
Date:

Yes not meaning to sound repetitive but thank you, throughly enjoy the site and everyone's contributions.

__________________


Futures qualifying

Status: Offline
Posts: 1690
Date:

Another thank-you for the kindness you showed in telling us in advance!

__________________


Improver

Status: Offline
Posts: 14
Date:

I'll break my posting duck by echoing that.

I've been a regular visitor for the last year or more, and I really appreciate the effort that goes into it all.

__________________


Strong Club Player

Status: Offline
Posts: 507
Date:

A valued resource, thank you.

__________________


Challenger level

Status: Offline
Posts: 2525
Date:

A sincere thanks from me....and a welcome to "Spot"!

__________________

 Its really not as bad as they say :)

KK


Club Coach

Status: Offline
Posts: 590
Date:

Is there some way we could make a contribution to the web subscription?   I get a lot of pleasure from this site so would be happy to do so.



__________________


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 34280
Date:

Thanks everyone.

It remains the case that the only uploader working on webs.com at the moment is the single file uploader (and this has now been the case for at least a month), which means that in order to update just one file, you have to search through a very long list of files in a very small window looking for the old version you need to delete (because there is no overwrite option when uploading) then another few clicks to find and send the file. It requires at least 20x as much time as uploading the whole set of tables used to take, so it's unsustainable long-term, but it'll enable me to update the tables every couple of days while I finish sorting out a new home for the site. So, some good news at last ...

This week's GB women's top 25 table is up at https://bitly.com/17rlTuq - some of the links to previous tables won't work and none of the little pics are there but it should be usable, at least for clicking on the draw and OoP links and for seeing how many points players are defending over Indian Wells fortnight.

I'd like to say the men's table will be up tomorrow but reconstructing the table after a break like this takes a lot longer than setting up a new week's table under normal circumstances and I've got so much else to do over here that it'll probably be next week before that gets revived too. 



__________________

GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!

GB top 25s (ranks, whereabouts) & stats - http://www.britishtennis.net/stats.html



Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 39466
Date:

Yay, great to see Steven. Not that I've checked to see if I disagree with anything yet

And I am sure that we will survive without the little pics

Thank you, appreciated !   



__________________


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 34280
Date:

Well, that went well - I spotted an error (WTA OoP links still had 2016 in them instead of 2017) and thought I'd upload corrected versions but after finally letting me delete the old versions of the files, it hasn't let me upload the new files for nearly half an hour (and counting) ... there may be something at the link by the morning, if I'm lucky (grrrr)

 



__________________

GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!

GB top 25s (ranks, whereabouts) & stats - http://www.britishtennis.net/stats.html



All-time great

Status: Offline
Posts: 5679
Date:

Sorry for all the frustration, Steven - and thank you (to echo others) for all you do.

__________________
1 2 3  >  Last»  | Page of 3  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse
Powered by ActiveBoard